[PIE inc] Statement on Kahah

No. We are not.

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We are all the sons and daughters of the Chosen, sent unto New Eden through the Gate.

By that logic, why are siblings enslaving and brutalizing their siblings?

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Because the Father told the well-behaved siblings that they had the authority in His absence, and that it was their duty to Reclaim them.
(and the bit about the reclaiming was taken slightly too literally)

ā€¦

ā€œWell-behavedā€?

I donā€™t even know where to start with that noise.

Winces
Times have changed, unfortunately. There are some who use their Faith to serve and disguise other purposes, when they should be turning those to the service of the Faith.

To clarify a little:

When you said that

you implied that the Matari were not ā€œwell-behavedā€ when this conflict began, and that our current ā€œmisbehaviorā€ is unjustified.

We did nothing to provoke the Amarr into invading, murdering, raping, and enslaving us. That was entirely on your people.

So donā€™t try to rewrite the narrative by claiming that some behavior of ours justified and continues to justify Amarr brutality. Thatā€™s old ā– ā– ā– ā– , and weā€™ve already been over it a million times. No. Just no.

You asked the question. I answered it. If you donā€™t want to have that talk, then donā€™t ask a question guaranteed to lead right into the middle of the subject.

Youā€™re really good at this victim-blaming ā– ā– ā– ā– , arenā€™t you?

And you seem to be doing a terrible attempt of raising my ire. I pity the fact that you have proven yourself unable to follow a civilized conversation without allowing your own biased emotions to twist anotherā€™s words into something they are not.

Do come speak to me again when you find yourself of a more rational state of mind. Iā€™ve little interest in utter fools and schoolchild dramatics.

Oh man, this is rich.

This from the very same person whose original post in this vein was

You donā€™t like yourself very much, do you?

I believe sheā€™s referring to turning away from god as ā€œmisbehaving.ā€ Not my fight, no support for ya given on this one Nulvellth. But Iā€™ll refrain from holding my tongue for that clarification.

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What I donā€™t like, Ramijozana, are soulless terrorists that would release a viral bomb in a crowded civilian marketplace in a futile attempt to express their anger. All it does is create more enemies, harsher justices.

Miss Vess, I find myself pleased that even a fiend such as yourself comprehends the Scriptures. There is hope yet.

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Well, someone is not getting their end of year bonus this year.

Sincerely,
The fiend who metaphorically signs your pay checkā€¦

P.S. I donā€™t need to know the scriptures to hold a civil convo. Mellsma by and large doesnā€™t either and does a decent job at it as well. If sheā€™s raising a more stern attitude thereā€™s probably reason for it. Youā€™ll find that even the more peaceful minded can be vicious if you donā€™t slow your role so to speak. Battlefields outside the station, this is not it.

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Thereā€™s no hope. They would kill me if they had their chance.

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Aah, I see. This would make somewhat more sense. Although Iā€™m not sure our forefathers ever followed that god in the first placeā€¦? That break would have happened millennia ago, I imagine. (But that might be a conversation for elsewhere.)

As for why Iā€™m being more sternā€“I take issue when psychological manipulation is used in the course of debate and discussion. Emotions are fine; grief knows Iā€™ve gotten emotional in these topics myself. But victim-blaming and shaming? Thatā€™s a step too far to me.

Wherein did I blame or shame any victims?
Certainly Iā€™ve the right to inform someone who threatens to murder my family that the family is already dead, and I hardly imagine there is anyone who would fault me for calling terrorists who massacre civilians ā€œscumā€.

Or, am I being accused of something else entirely on the basis of your own biased presumptions? When I speak of ancient history recorded in Scripture, and you act as though I speak of a far more recent narrative, that is your misunderstanding, or willful corruption of my words, at hand.

And now claiming innocence. Add that to the list.

I literally responded to each of the comments in question, and Iā€™m not interested in repeating myself just to play your game.

You may want to read my statements and your own comments, and play closer attention to the accusations you made and what was actually said.
If there happens to be something you do not understand, ask for clarification rather than jumping to some pretentious assumption.

Exhibit A.