EXACTLY! I quoted the part were you were referring to cheap PLEX as something “essential”. As if playing EVE as a omega Account without paying was a basic need rather than one of a myrad more or less entertaining ways to waste time.
And I am OK with the fact, that when you don’t have the time to grind PLEX for you main account and don’t have the money to pay the sub (that was down to 8€/month last weekend) you have to play with alpha limitations that will be lifted up to battleships next month. People can contribute for free, no need to plex for that.
And still PLEX is cheaper than ever for what I think is its main use: Alts.
In my opinion cheap “game time only” Plex is essential to EVE’s success.
I am referring to the economy within eve. I can accept a game time only Plex no longer exists I just think it is a wrong move to pile on so many services to Plex when its original and only use was game time.
Many people here if talk as if Plex users want things for free when that’s not what the case is. Plex users just want value and a product that is fit for purpose.
The current Plex is value for money due to all the services it can provide I can agree. We just have to accept that people who are looking for “game time only” using isk can’t use Plex due to its cost. They simply will not use Plex for game time which will affect the number of people who play.
I think what everyone has been questioning is why you think this would make the price change? Even if it did in the short term, it would revert back to where it is and continue to rise.
If that happens then its fine…we will just stay where we are now where people won’t want to grind. If a game time only Plex did exist you could go ahead and put it on the market for huge price and no one would buy it. The Plex sellers would need to lower the cost due to it being game time only.
I think 30 days of game time would be worth 600m to 700m isk. I didn’t consider the value of isk when I speculated 350m to 500m earlier.
The true isk value of game time needs to be determined if my idea was implemented.
OK, say you’re my buddy and you didn’t want to pay the sub, so I offered to set up a PayPal for you and give you £9.99 per month in exchange for isk. How much isk would you be comfortable giving me?
I’m not sure if this is against the tos and EULA, its just a theoretical discussion and I have no intention of actually doing what I wrote.
But how true ISK value is different than just ISK value?
And what with people who would give more on a black market if you would want to sell it for a fixed price oficially?
I just remembered that there was my comment here that they should regulate PLEX price, now I see hilarity of my previous commie comment in full glory.
But regulating the ISK payouts, that was something less hilarious, more serious. But how to make it so people will not feel like they were hurt in a process?
Maybe creating a mechanic that would remove bounties and replace it with tags that could be sold to NPC traders in high sec, and there would be time to regenerate the orders? If more Tags would be sold, there would be more time to regenerate order.
OK. Let’s value a month of game time with an account that still needs skill training at 600 Mil. ISK. Done.
Now let’s value a month of game time of an (alt) account that does not need any more skill training: A main account is more important than an alt account that doesn’t need training anymore. So let’s value those at 1/3 of that price? That’s 200 Mil. ISK per month plus the 1,5 Bil. ISK we get from skill extracting. I think there are more PLEXed alt accounts than main account but let’s assume it was 50/50. The price would still average out far above your targeted price for game time only PLEX.
To settle the price for game time way lower than it is now you would need a “game time for main accounts only no skill extraction possible PLEX”. THAT may work out but I see no way how that could be done.
I am puzzled: How should a PLEX price below 1,5 Bil. ISK even be possible as long as players are willing to pay 750+ Mil. ISK per large skill injector. Did is miss something or is that just impossible?
(I have also no idea were that greed for instant skillpoints came from, but I am a patient person.)
My question is how much isk should be charged for 30 days game time only with no other Plex service included.
I’m suggesting Plex be split so 2 Plex are available, one for game time only, and one for all other Plex services. I don’t think the price should be dropped but just sold differently.
And we are mostly telling you our prediction is pretty much the exact same price as right now because the real value of PLEX are in game time and not side services. You only ever see people mad about he price of PLEX because they can’t sub. Nobody think the price is high for skins purchase or other side services. This tell me the upper value of a PLEX is determined by what a player is willing to pay so he can play. You think this is different and that’s fine but you literally nothing to show for your perception while we have the actual situation that show an ever increasing price. As long as PLEX don’t go un-sold ont he market, it means the price is good enough for people. If it was really overpriced like you seem to think, it would go un-sold unless the major use case for PLEX is something else than subscription but I doubt that.
Maybe CCP coudd shed some light on this but I really doubt it.
This is literally undoing what they spend resources and effort on doing because one of the major complaint about the previous model was having 2 currency.
I don’t understand who would buy the game time only plex to sell on the market for you to buy for 400million or whatever, maybe if it was £3 they might buy a hac or something?
Wouldn’t the actual customers who pay CCP money for plex just buy the ‘other one’ which would (well I don’t think it would but whatever) be worth more and sell that on the market?
And if that was only worth 400million then why would anyone buy either they would just go to illegal RMT traders if they wanted to buy isk and eve would die.
But then it would be so cheap that the demand for these few plex would be huge and the price would go up, and keep going up until it was attractive enough for people to want to buy plex with rl cash again. If eve had not been killed by RMT in the meantime.
Why do you think people buy plex? (hint the people who BUY it buy it because they want isk not game time).
I don’t understand your idea, or why you think grinding for 15 hours for a free sub (or a lot less if you know what you are doing) is expensive either. Might just be me though.
No matter what the stated purpose was, Aurum worked just fine as a 2nd currency for additional non-sub based services.
Fact was that Aurum was not selling.
Mark my words, diversifying and then fragmenting PLEX is what will ultimately kill this game. Especially in regard to injectors.
Im not a 10yr vet, but Ive been around long enough to remember the community sentiment that CCP should never EVER fk around with PLEX (or SP), and for good reason.
