If PLEX is so expensive now, how about taking advantage of their Black Friday Sale? “King’s Ransom” 1100 plex for $39.99. You even get a ship skin out of it.
As I said earlier with my idea, if the GT only plex was put on the market for the same price as the current plex no one would buy it at the price you suggest due to it having only one use which is game time.
If I put myself in the position of a plex buyer for isk theres no way I’d pay over 1.5b for a game time only plex, I’d pay 1.5b for the current plex yes no problem. as per my idea the services are simply split up and the market would be used to find out what the pilots would be happy to buy and sell it for in terms of isk.
By all means people can go ahead and put up a GT only plex for 1.5b or above, they wouldn’t be guaranteed the sale.
I can go ahead and Value my toon Aaron @ the equivalent isk value to £1,000,000.00 and then go ahead and try and sell it for that price. This does not mean i will get what im asking for does it.
So what exactly are you saying:
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How much would these GT PLEXs cost in cash from CCP?
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Are you seriously (correct me if Im wrong in my reading) suggesting CCP would sell these GT PLEXs ingame for isk?
Im trying to understand your proposal and give it the benefit of consideration, but Im lacking the above two core pieces in your puzzle.
1, In my idea a GT only plex is £9.99 from my UK perspective, the same price as a sub.
2, Players will sell the GT only plex ingame for whatever price they choose. My view here is that because of the way the product is presented which will be game time only, the isk price should settle at whatever game time is worth. If buyers and sellers can reach a consensus using the market i can’t see any problem here.
The rest of the services can still be sold in one plex which i believe will still command a strong isk value, we would still see the best possible trading in a plex that didnt have game time. Pilots still need to make profit on skill point farms in order for it to be worth doing.
I can accept there may be something I’m not seeing which is why I’m typing it here so we can discuss the logic of it, so its just an idea which is exactly what forums are for. lets just keep it cool, no name calling or getting angry just because people may not agree with your idea or view.
Then why would players buy 500 PLEX from CCP to resell anymore, instead of this cheaper 1month sub value equivalent ingame of 1month play time and the isk value thereof?
This is ■■■■■■■■.
Anyone can sell PLEX as is for 1 isk if they choose.
As I said above, if you can buy and re-sell 1 month sub at less than the cost of 500 PLEX from CCP in cash, this is disastrous for PLEX sales.
People will instead buy the cheaper GT PLEX, and sell it ingame for the value of 500 PLEX, instead of actually buying 500 PLEX from CCP.
Dont you see that?
Considering your idea again, these are my points;
1, In order to affect the price of an INTEGRAL product such as plex as per your idea by means of flooding the market with more plex which is generated by a combat site then the volume of the combat site plex would need to be half or considerably more of the current amount of plex on the market now.
2, If your idea was implemented with the above mentioned volumes then that will take money away from CCP.
Your idea needs more investigation and it needs to be of a structure where nothing can get in the way of pilots paying ccp for an integral service. That would be terrible business practice for CCP to allow pilots to generate mission plex in any shape or form, it would limit the amount of money CCP earns and seriously affect their ability to even provide Eve Online.
Yes, they could do that I agree, but they wouldn’t be guaranteed the sale, because both new types of plex would offer different services.
You need to tell me, would you pay 1.5b for a GT only plex? I wouldnt.
The current plex has its current value which I actually agree with. My issue is that the price is inaccurate due to so many services being available within one product. All I’m really saying is separate the services (game time), present it and let the players do the rest.
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You diverted from answering my questions as to your proposal, and left then unanswered.
Do NOT think that has been overlooked.
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There will be no “flood” of PLEX, only a trickle. I have specifically stated that over and over, as well as means for CCP to moderate it.
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As has been shown, people will buy PLEX from CCP for its primary purpose of re-selling it ingame so as to not have to grind for it ingame., at even a fraction of the current demand/price for PLEX ingame.
2, this is my point. if there is only a trickle of plex coming in through combat sites then it wont affect the isk price of plex because its too low a volume considering YOUR goal is to affect isk price. all it will serve to do is stop ccp earning that volume of generated plex. I know youve stated that over and over and I have understood it. And now youre saying ccp should moderate it and spend more time on something which loses them money?
This is basically where your idea must stop. any scenario where plex is generated in game will only deny ccp their earnings.
This is contradictory.
If, as you agree, it wont significantly affect the price of PLEX, then it also will not significantly reduce purchase of PLEX from CCP.
Do you not agree that the incentive to purchase PLEX from CCP is hinged on the value of PLEX ingame?
Now answer my 2 specific questions on your proposal, which you have been avoiding.
i already answered your 2 questions, scroll back
I saw the examples others gave based on your numbers. the amount may be small to you but from another perspective it could eventually cost someone their job.
In your model, people can buy a GT PLEX for cheaper than 500 PLEX, in cash.
That GT PLEX will still be worth 500 PLEX ingame as a sub alternative, and thus costs less in cash than buying 500 PLEX for re-sale ingame.
How do you not see that?
If GT PLEX of equivalent cash cost to 1month sub was released tomorrow, who would buy 500 PLEX instead from CCP?
Your suggestion directly reduces CCPs revenue from PLEX sales, by dividing a part off of that in equivalence to the already existing, CHEAPER sub option.
CCP already offers a 9.99 pound offer for a one month sub.
Wtf is the rationale in them selling 500 PLEX worth in a GT PLEX, for the same price?
That is a direct net loss in revenue for CCP, not as a factor of ingame value in isk, but in raw cash.
You would be making 500 PLEX worth in cash, worth only the price of a sub.
That completely breaks the model on a systemic basis OUTSIDE of the game, rather than within it.
My model reduces the value of PLEX INGAME, marginally, in isk.
Your model reduces the value of PLEX OUTSIDE the game, concretely, in cash.
Think, man. Think about what you are saying.
how much is £9.99 worth in isk?
how much is £16.99 worth in isk?
Obviously £16.99 is worth more in isk.
No matter how you cut it, £16.99 will always be worth more in isk than £9.99 in isk.
What is your point?
after reading some of this stuff i just pray for one think that
we will wake up one day login into eve and will see, bounty on all rats set to 0 isk.
no more isk printing, people have enough of this - it is just that simple.
or ccp will say ■■■■ this all plex - drop this from eve completely lets only people who will pay stay safe,
and all this stockpiled plexys worth nothing as an old unused anymore item.
good epic stuff i sell you CCP 
They already had this system. It was PLEX and aurem. Aurem had next to no activity and they got rid of it by converting it into PLEX.
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Plex system was bad from the beginning - all was good when people buy and sell using forum. For me they should totaly ride plex system from eve - let people only pay using normal credit card - no more speculation no more bulsheet
Aaaand PLEX is going upwards again. I kinda wonder how it held for so long around the 3.0-3.1 range…
Current buy price at Jita is 3 201 000 and 3 290 000 Sell.
With these juicy buy orders there is only one direction where it’s headed. I think there might be PLEX sale in December to reflect that, so keep the wallets fat ladies and gentlemen. 
Speaking of which, what kind of idiots are setting >4mil sale orders for PLEX.
I agree somewhat, when gtc was sold on forums it was regulated and aimed at getting pilots isk so they wouldn’t buy from illegal sources, it turned out to be a great way to keep real life cash with ccp and their customers and not an rmt dealer. Successful and illegal businesses were setup where people would be employed and given rl cash to farm isk in eve.
I must say though when gtc turned to Plex and got put on the ingame market I think the buyers and sellers had a mature approach and kept the price realistic.
The only problem we have with the current Plex is that there are too many in game services rolled into the Plex which gives it a combined value which SEEMS high.