Something tells me that the target that the FC called out is not within range as you somehow ended up in the wrong system.
If you are a good player, your SP donāt quite matter. You can easily catch up to older players a ship at a time, a fitting at a time. If you can pilot your Frig, Cruiser or BS better than a player of 15 years, their 200M+ SP donāt matter.
Best example: That funny Chremoas guy who lost to an Algos Noob. Remember that?
Iām not so sure about thatā¦
Years and years ago a PvP friend was showing me some engagement tactics⦠We both had the same type of Frigates fit exactly the same way with similar Hardwiring Implants in our clones (my clone also had Attribute āLearningā Implants)ā¦
During the course of the training, we both saw that my Frigate was traveling faster, taking less damage and applying more DPS than his Frigate⦠After checking everything, we realized that my SPās were Level 5 in all of the various skill groups affecting those stats whereas most of his skills were at Level 4ā¦
Basically having maxed SPās does give a bit of an advantage when equally paired (ship, fit, implants) against another with lesser SPās in the same skill group⦠However in actual combat the engagement would definitely favor the more experienced playerā¦
I assume same SP levels in the relevant skills for a given engagement in my statement. If you have all skills for a frig fight at the same level, it doesnāt matter if one guy only has 10M SP and the other 300M. The 10M guy has already caught up to the 300M SP guy.
While youāre correct. You still have to figure in the human factor.
This is one of the reasons Iāve done less fleets and set up Gloria in the first placeā¦a char Iāve spent more and more time in. Some of the doctrine fittings I was flying required no fittings expertise at all. Whereas with Gloria I am free to devise whatever fittings I want and thus can actually learnā¦and be fully responsible for whatever victories or losses result. Also, having SRP is simply not the same as the additional risk and caution that comes from being fully responsible for oneās ship.
My 60 meagre and puny kills actually count more for me than the 1400 big expensive kills Iāve gotten from fleets.
And thatās why I said:
Now if youāre talking about the more experienced player making a mistake due to over-confidence or not correctly accessing the engagementā¦
Then yeah, that experienced player could easily lose the engagement against a lesser experienced player, especially since human error can happen at any time, itās definitely an important factor in any engagementā¦
But I think experience greatly reduces the chance of that happening⦠Most experience is gained through repetition where the individual has learned what does and doesnāt workā¦
So now Iām not sure what to say⦠Other than having high SPās and maxing out skills definitely helps increase performanceā¦
Thatās something we can all agree onā¦
Letās talk about how skill extractors/injectors are pay to win and should be removed from the game how they should never have been added to the game in the first place. Same with the packs you can buy that give you skill points. They take away from the spirit of the game and shouldnāt be a thing.
This has always been pay to win though. Over a decade ago, there were learning skills that sped up learning for those who could afford them. they were removed and six years later, skill injectors were introduced. But there has always been PLEX⦠since 2008ā¦
But without PLEX, PvP could destroy most of the player base. No more miners or independant players. Get into a corp or lose all of your ISK and quit.
Without PLEX, ore prices will skyrocket fast.
Meh. āPay to winā might have been an issue when Eve was 5 or 10 years old, but now that it has passed 20 years there has to be some way for people to catch up without it taking 20 years to do so. I mean, this is a computer gameā¦not a sentence for armed robbery. Thereās a huge difference between someone having 20 years of SP by default of simply having been around that long when they didnāt know at the time theyād be in it for 20 years, and some noob looking forward to 20 years themselves. In fact if anything Iād argue the skills queue should be speeded upā¦which to some extent it is a little bit by virtue of things like daily rewards, but not as much as it should be.
If you have the cash, the skill queue runs at infinite speed. Canāt get much faster than that.
As for the āWhat about the newbies???!!?!?!!ā argument, most of the people I talk to in game are vets buying SP to pump up alts. Newbs donāt know what they need to train yet so donāt really buy much SP. They buy skins and fashion.
Mr Epeen
At what point did I disagree on?
Hi cutie, discord later?
Didnāt say you did, the wink meant it as a light hearted general statementā¦
Here you disagreed with this point.
Thatās not entirely true. After a certain point injectors become not worth it. Unless you are dumping an extremely absurd amount of money into the game. And the kits that offer sp are only a 1 time buy if Iām not mistaken.
OK, you lost me here. Please clarify. What exactly did I disagree on this time? There are so manyā¦
You guys canāt even agree on what you disagree with.
Not sure where I even disagreed with him⦠I disagree with so many!
Habitual disagreer I see.