a Porp can compress gas, not mine it. The Gnosis is a better gas booster as it can huff at the same time.
The Gnosis can be a better booster, but that isnât always the case.
Porp mining foreman burst is stronger though, about 10.9% more yield per boosted ship.
The Gnosis itself mines about as much as 94% of a Venture.
As a result, if you have a fleet of 9+ Ventures/Prospects huffing the cloud, the Porpoise is in fact a better booster.
But even with a smaller fleet the Porpoise brings utility that the Gnosis doesnât, like a much bigger ore bay, ability to take frigate holes and remote repairs.
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Thankyou all for your input. I may disagree, but you also have given me some valuable insite.
I am not fielding my Orca for 100,000 m3 of Mercoxit in one belt at best.
The Porpoise should be able to compress it along with the rest of the Ores in the Anomâs.
Orca and Rorq, ice and moon goo.
I donât see why a Porpoise should be able to compress ore in space.
I mean, both Porpoises and Orcas got along for a long time without the ability to compress ore in space. Surely you can haul the Mercoxit to a structure in your Porpoise and compress there, if youâre not willing to risk an Orca?
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Just to clarify, how would someone squeeze an Orca through a small frigate hole into a shattered wormhole and do shattered wormholes have bigger classes to let a rorqual in?
Iâm no wormholer, so I could be wrong, but I donât think Orcas can fit through small frigate holes, unlike Porpoises. Shattered wormholes apparently come in two versions, one for frigate-sized ships and one âstandardâ version. I have no idea if Rorquals can enter the second type, but I would guess Orcas can.
Why the question?
The question came up because in this instance, the Orca and the rorqual cannot be fielded in those holes.
I donât know if shattered holes have ore anomalies, I only know that they have ice. If you would have a lucky day and you would have a small or moderate mercoxite anomly in such a hole, the only booster you would be able to bring would be the Porpoise.
Would you bring the mercoxite back to your tower or citadel, then launch the Orca in your hole to compress the mercoxite later?
No Mercoxite in Shattered holes according to Wormhole sites - EVE University Wiki
Only other types of ore, and ice.
And about mining ice, I guess this is one of the reasons CCP didnât give Porpoises the abilty to compress ice, because this way ice mining in wormholes is the same as it ever was, without compression and hard to get.
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Okay then. The mercoxite compression is not something the Porpoise needs after all.
However, I am fairly certain that the overall balance of the game will not brake, if the Porpoise would gain at least one more high slot.
I do agree with the addition of an extra high slot for the Porpoise.
The ship has gained many extra high slot module options/requirements with the update that added the industrial core and compression variants, it could really use an extra high slot to fit it and be as functional as it was before.
It has bonuses to:
- tractor beam
- mining command bursts x2 (or 3 with rig)
- remote shield booster
and is now also supposed to fit:
- industrial core
- compressor
Well thatâs 6 slots filled, yet it has only 4.
Iâd love to fit it like I used to, with other utility highs like cloak and salvager, but thereâs just too many high slot modules competing for too few slots now. 
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thatâs from the jetcan mining age, which was obsoleted by the compression module introduction
the remote shield booster bonus is only for optimal range, and optimal range is relevant only when the ships in the fleet are widely displaced from each other, e.g. because theyâre manouvering rather then anchored. Why would mining barges do that? If manouvering is a thing at all, i.e. the barges arenât anchored on the immobilized indy core command ship, the command ship probably is moving towards some bookmark or celestial, and in order not to drift off the mining grid, the barges all have it webbed for it to move at 10m/s only yet be insta-warp capable, and in order to web the command ship, the barges need to be close to it.
Get a second command ship on grid and youâll have 8 top slots. While the compressor needs to be on the same command ship the core is on, all the other mining foreman modules can be spread however you want.
Still a useful bonus nonetheless.
Iâve used it on my Porpoise to keep the belt clean of wrecks, so that any hostiles passing by did not see activity in the belt I was in.
Wrecks in an ice belt with the name of two characters who are in local chat but nowhere to be seen (because cloaked/docked) is a dead giveaway of ice mining activity and a reason to make a bookmark there, leave system, jump back later and warp directly to the belt.
Are you arguing that the Porpoise should not need this bonus or that it should not use remote logistics?
I agree that the bonus isnât all that useful, but remote logistics on the Porpoise can make your mining barges and frigates survive null sec belt rats.
About non-moving ships: the mining frigates are always moving in an orbit around the rock, in order to sig tank the rats showing up in null sec belts.
I havenât mined since the industrial core, but if I did, my Porpoise too would not be stationary unless I needed the compression module for a cycle, as pinning yourself down all the time is a kill waiting to happen once people spot you.
I may be multiboxing, but am only using two accounts. Are you suggestig I fly two Porpoises? To boost what exactly?
Back when I often mined I mined on my own using Porpoise + Endurance or Porpoise + Hulk. Occasionally with others from my corp, but that was more exception than rule. In null sec, in a region with frequent hostile visitors and no big safety net.
It worked pretty well, but from your comments I feel like your idea of mining is in another context entirely.
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is there really a need to web a ship that already has 6-second align ?
Six seconds is enough time for things to go wrong. You would be surprised 
I could, but, Mercoxit spawns in the same belts as the common ores. The Orca and Rorq compress Ice and Moon Goo.
I already haul the Merc to a station to compress. My point is, when I can compress the other 2-3 mil m3 in an Anom, with a Porp, why not be able to compress 100,000 Merc with the same ship? Reserving Ice and Moon Goo for the Orca and Rorq?
Let me answer that with a similar question:
When I can mine all sorts of ore and ice with mining drones in my Porp, Orca or Rorqual, why can I not mine Mercoxit with the same ship?
Simple: not everything needs to be the same or needs to work the same.
In fact, different rules can make certain types of ores special, make them harder to get and thus make them more valuable. Different rules and exceptions create space for different ships to be preferable in different situations, which brings variation and life to the game.
Without exceptions or special rules the game would become very bland and boring when the question to âbest setup,â is no longer âit dependsâ, but points you to the current flavour-of-the-month ship that is best for everything.
Iâm glad ice, gas, ore and mercoxit require different setups. Mining would be boring if those resources were simply recolours of eachother.
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I see your point.
The deep core mining laser and the modulated deep core strip miner are the only modules that can mine mercoxit, and both can also mine any other ore in the game.
Ore, but not gas or ice.
And while the Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner has the flexibility to mine any ore in the game, itâs less efficient at doing so than a regular Modulated Strip Miner. The yield is lower.
So while you could mine everything with it, you trade yield for flexibility. Tradeoffs, optimisation, theyâre all possible because there is no single âbestâ option that does it all.
And thatâs good for the game.
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