Why not just add a separate toggle that allows you to set yourself as a suspect? Normal 15-minute interval, can’t be turned off at will (have to wait out the timer). I’d be up for that. Safety button should remain separate since it has other functionality (like preventing you from attacking by accident/cat on keyboard/etc).
because that would mean another stupid button, further convuluting the already messy UI.
Other than risk averse gankbears crying there is no reason to not use the safety off as suspect trigger.
What if you’re doing PvE with smartbombs?
Ok, look this is fun and all but given the purpose of this supposed solution is to give people who arent paying much attention extra warning, whats to stop me sidling up to you set to green and then once Im ready to end you, flicking my safeties off?
you get concorded in HS anyway. Don’t derail gankbear.
How about if setting safety to red flags you as a criminal, and setting it to yellow flags you as a suspect?
There are situations where I might want to set safety to yellow and not want to be a suspect.
Taking filaments for example, or when I’m preparing to be able to repair a fellow suspect but do not want to get attacked before I rep them.
But I guess a separate toggle that allows players to manually set a suspect or criminal flag could be nice.
You cannot do that anymore in highsec it gives you a GCC timer.
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Does it? My high sec rule knowledge is really lacking, glad I play in an area of the game where I can shoot whatever, whenever. 
But the reality is, the actions that we are used to in Eve are considered griefing in other games.
In Eve, griefing is allowed and part of the game play. Does not mean it’s not griefing - it means it’s considered normal to do so, and the devs acknowledged the griefing.
And YES, you can and are encouraged to griefe the other miners, not in rocks but in ice belts. You are encouraged because you are competing for resources
strawman.
unrelated.
Yup. They “fixed” it after many years of complaining by carebears that it was unfair to them when wardeccers remote-repaired each other with neutral alts during wars, making it impossible to beat them in battles. After CCP fixed it, the carebears instantly began to fight back during wars as they promised they would if only the engagements were made fair, and continue to fight bravely to this day, knowing that neutral assistance is no longer a factor in making them unable to compete on the battlefield.
You should ask the devs if they acknowledge/allow/support griefing. The answer might surprise you!
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Please get yourself informed before you start trying to have an opinion.
They already acknowledged that griefing is allowed outside of starting systems :
So yes, griefing is allowed by devs.
I read it. Doesn’t mention anywhere that griefing is allowed outside of starting systems. The article only describes behaviors that aren’t allowed in specific systems against specific players.
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No you did not read it.
If it’s specifically forbidden in some system, it implies it’s allowed in the other systems.
So yes, griefing is allowed by CCP.
If ‘griefing’ is an allowed (and encouraged) form of gameplay if not done against newbies in specific systems, is it really griefing?
“Such griefing involves but is not limited to; destroying, stealing or ransoming mission critical items.”
Is basically the only definition of the G word CCP provide on that page.
Note, “is not limited to”, so therefore it means whatever CCP wants, and so is meaningless inherently within the context of EvE.
Next.
Nope. I’m interpreting the document directly, as you always demand. You are fine with implication when it benefits your perspective, but not when others do it. Let’s be consistent instead, because if we aren’t then we can all interpret anything as we see fit, and there is no conversation.
The document mentions nothing about griefing being allowed. What the document does do is outline a specific set of actions, performed against a specific set of players, in specific locations, and defines that as rookie griefing. The document makes absolutely no mention of these acts being defined as “griefing” in any other context.
So once again, you’re extrapolating meanings however you see fit. If I were to do that, then you’d start immediately accusing me of making fallacies, lying, and likely even making personal attacks. In this case, however, I can safely call you a liar, because your claim that “they [CCP] acknowledged that griefing is allowed outside of starting systems” is patently false, as no such statement has been made.
Oh, and before I forget:
Strawman.
Unrelated.
Damn, that felt pretty good! I should do this more often!
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Your conclusion is wrong. As usual. Those actions are only labeled as “rookie griefing” under those specific conditions mentioned in the article. Beyond those, it’s not regarded as “rookie griefing” or “griefing” anymore, and they become a 100% legit game mechanic.
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More personal attacks. Seems like you are here to troll rather than to discuss.
That’s called logic : what allows you to extrapolate or not.
No, if your posts were actually logic, that is follow a rule.
It’s easy to say “If you were doing logic things” when you don’t.
Well, more personal attacks.
And more trolling.
More personnal attack, followed by a strawman.
You fail to understand my conclusion and then claim it’s wrong. The reality is, you just failed, as usual.
Yes, when it’s not “rookie griefing” then it’s not “rookie griefing”. Does not mean it’s not “griefing”, that a completely stupid statement.
Well, it’s very clear now : gankers are griefers, and CCP acknowledged it. The only argument against it are from people making trolls and personal attacks.
Editing my post because someone flagged it as SPAM, so that it’ll be unhidden. Oh my I wonder who could have reported it in anger, lol… Anyway my post said
ROFLMAO