Potential Solitude gate suggestions, and a plea to maintain the region's uniqueness

If It aint broke dont fix it
The whole thing that is Solitude works because its an island with LS and NS routes in/out
a Highsec gate will just turn it into another chuck of Empire space
Leave Solitude alone :slight_smile:

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True, a highsec gate would be awful. That’s why I think a Kenninck-Babirmoult gate would be the least harmful option to the region.

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singing TO BE FAIR singing
I think the position Clyde is staking out is reasonable, and I think he’s acting is good faith. You don’t put together a report as comprehensive as he did for his idea if he wasn’t.

As I detailed before, I don’t think it ends up mattering what kind of gate is added, I think its bad for Solitude for the reasons I previously mentioned. I can understand the argument he’s making, even if he’s being a little devil’s advocate about it.

Let’s try and keep it somewhat constructive on the off chance (LMAFO) CCP actually reads this thread.

I feel like making a Reddit thread would get their attention more easily lmao. Sucks because I don’t like Reddit and don’t care for most modern social media, but unfortunately Reddit and Twitter would probably be better options to get their attention than here.

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I’ve considered it in the past, but I feel like it would also bring too much bad attention lol. I try limit my reddit lime to memes.
Honestly I don’t know how seriously I should take these hints. I dismissed the first hint after some initial panic but now I’m not so sure.
Either way I think its good to have the discussion.

Damn I love the Federation. Best society in New Eden, warts and all.

And I’m not attacking him for it. But I do think that this is a completely erroneous approach to dealing with this situation. Everyone should be joining forces to ensure that CCP doesn’t do this, instead of trying to do damage control by attempting to get them to buy into the least damaging change possible.

First, I’d like to make it clear I think any additional gates/paths/etc. into Solitude would be a bad thing for Solitude. The reasons why have been well stated by preceding posts, so I won’t repeat them here.

Second, props to the OP for a well-thought-out proposal for a few least-bad options if they INSIST on ruining the region.

Third, CCP rarely, if ever, does anything just for the lore. Yes, it makes sense from a lore point of view, for the Gallentians to want a direct connection between these two chunks of their territory, but I don’t think they’d do it just for that reason. I would wager a substantial amount that with a direct gate connection will come other changes, something that has me worried even more than a simple gate connection.

Fourth, a direct connection between Empire space and Solitude, even if it’s not HS-HS will not only harm Solitude, but will also harm Syndicate since traffic through the region will decrease.

Fifth, if they DO create the connection, it might not be AS bad as we fear because since wormholes were introduced, there’s been plenty of opportunity for certain groups to come here and they haven’t yet. Maybe there’s hope?

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If you want more people in your area just don’t be in Solitude, find a busier place. Leave that area for people who enjoy it for what it is.

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Big thanks to u/Xuixien_TheAugust on Reddit for making a post there about this there. Hopefully someone from CCP ends up seeing that thread and takes in to consideration the opinions of people living in Solitude as to how exactly they should handle this.

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Home sweet home

If there’s not a pair of Archons and a Loki on the Gondista or Shiroshin gate you should be worried. Very worried.

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This, do it.

So I’ve gone ahead and done a survey of people around Solitude in-game and asked their opinions on the matter, and just about everyone I’ve talked to isn’t in favor of a gate being established. I realise that the sample size is small and I’m only collecting it from one particular timezone and only from the English speakers in the region, but that combined with this thread and the Reddit thread gives me a good idea of what’s going on.

Now, this is speculation, but I’m guessing from the details leaked that the event surrounding this will be some thing where players help assist in the building of these gates though mining and resource collection. If it’s anything like the Triglavian invasions, maybe this activity can be disrupted? In any case, it may be pertinent for Solitude residents to arm themselves for people pushing in the opposite direction, both in Solitude and mainline Fed space.

I’m also still hopeful that should CCP go forward with an event like this, it’ll take place in lowsec Solitude. If anything, I’d want CCP to realise what a horrible idea it’d be for the region to have a highsec-highsec connection, the worst out of all the possible outcomes.

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I’m not completely sold that it isn’t just flavor lore yet, but the second mention is concerning. If this ends up being an event that can be prevented by in game player action I’d almost certainly want to participate in a coalition to try and prevent it.

CCP seem keen, at least from the prior Triglavian event, on having players decide the outcome of things like this. I wouldn’t be surprised if they allowed for such an outcome where players can essentially decide on what happens through activity.

Too bad they define the ability to “decide” as the EVE equivalent of turning in bear pelts to the quest giver in order to make a bar move left or right, instead of making players actually fight it out for control of what happens during events.

If you change access to that area you change the area and as it pretty much has NO access atm any “normal” access will result is a massive change turning it from something special into “just another region”. This is one of those “be careful what you wish for” things.

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Don’t touch Solitude, you’ll ruin it.

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Uh… what? Pretty much everyone I’ve surveyed is against the idea. Have you read the top of my OP?

I also went around just about every system in Solitude, and everyone from Straloin to Boystin has argued against it. There’s no super secret hisec miner carebear conspiracy to ruin the region that I’m a part of.

What’s happening is that I wanted to see what the people of Solitude thought about the idea, and if the results would have any effect on what CCP would ultimately do. And, if they go through with it anyways, where a stargate could possibly cause the least harm to the region.

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My mistake, I read that wrong. It seemed far fetched to begin with :stuck_out_tongue: