To improve asset management and mobility within stations for players operating multiple accounts (multiboxing).
Concept and Rules:
Introduce the possibility of renting a Private Hangar on a monthly basis in eligible stations owned or controlled by a corporation or alliance.
Rental pricing would be defined by the corporation or alliance.
Access would be restricted to accounts/alts within the same organization (corporation or alliance).
The feature would be enabled through a specific role assigned to the player’s main account.
The authorized account would configure which additional accounts/alts are permitted to access the same Private Hangar.
The rental contract would follow the existing in-game leasing mechanics, including monthly billing cycles and current penalty rules.
Players could maintain Private Hangar rental contracts in multiple eligible stations, limited to those under their corporation’s or alliance’s sovereignty/control.
Asset rules and item handling would follow the current in-game standards and mechanics.
Expected Benefits:
Streamlined logistics for multiboxing players.
Reduced friction in asset transfers between personal accounts within the same organization.
Increased strategic value for corporation- and alliance-controlled infrastructure.
Potential additional ISK sink through rental fees.
This proposal aims to enhance quality of life for organized players while leveraging existing mechanics and minimizing the need for entirely new systems.
Stations are not owned by corporations and alliances, you must be thinking of upwell structures.
Paying rent to corporations and alliances is not an ISK sink as the ISK stays in the economy when it is moved to someone else’s pocket.
If access is restricted to those in the same corporation, wouldn’t that exclude multiboxers who do not have all characters in the same group?
And if access is on corporation basis anyway, why aren’t you using corp hangars for this purpose already? You could make a private corporation for all your alts and join an allianve with that, while having corp hangars to share assets in. Or private is not even necessary if you trust your corporation members.
Lastly, why am I spending so much time writing comments on a low effort AI thread?
The intention of this proposal is to address the following needs:
Industrial users who own multiple accounts and operate under a mixed-role corporation in nullsec.
This corporation is under an alliance that occupies territory in nullsec.
The inclusion of other alts in the private multibox hangar proposal allows them access to the same assets used in industry, and this inclusion is the responsibility of the account that contracted the hangar. This is different from using the corporate hangar, where restrictions must exist for security reasons.
We can include alts from other corporations as long as they are under the same alliance (this serves as a security criterion for the alliance).
I’ll give my example: I have 4 accounts, where 2 accounts have 3 characters each. All are industrial. I always need to trade between the accounts that are online and contract with the ones that are offline (the alts of the 2 accounts that have 3 characters).
If at some point, without needing to create a corporation or petition the board to release a corporate hangar, I manage to contract a private multibox hangar and add another 7 alts and share my industry assets, I would achieve much better performance in my industry and wouldn’t constantly lose track amid so many trades and contracts.
And to remember, of the 8 characters I have, 5 are in a secondary corporation in the same alliance.
Sure, the game already doesn’t ban multiboxing but supports multiboxing somewhat. But I don’t think the game should go out of it’s way to make changes specifically to help multiboxers gain even more of an advantage.
I am fully convinced that 60% of all carriers, dreadnoughts, jump freighters, supercarriers, and titans are manufactured by multiboxing players. I am simply requesting a performance improvement for industrialists.
Why? This game already has WAY too much capitals and supercaps, the Alliances are stockpiling them like mad and there are MUCH more produced than destroyed every single month, so their number is rising and rising.
Why should it be even EASIER to produce them? If you feel uncomfortable managing multiple accounts and their assets, jobs and hangars, the logical way to improve your convenience is to reduce the number of accounts. Or found your own corporation with all strings attached, all the rights management, diplomacy, standings etc…
You’d be surprised how convenient EVE can be without the need for greed.
Syzygium, borrowing from your own forum title — nobody is perfect. I have no intention whatsoever of becoming a multi-trillion ISK tycoon, especially because this is a game, and I have a personal and professional life outside of it. I only made this proposal because I understand that, for me and some other players I know who do industry like I do, it would make a real difference. I’m sorry, but it is impossible to please everyone at the same time.
you want to be the best in your chosen profession…
so you need more alts to produce…
so you need more space…
to have more stuff…
to produce more faster…and at times cheaper than the other guy…
so you can sell more…
so you can make more money than anyone else…
so you can be calld the best…
only the best are the richest…
so stop lying to yourself…and stop lying to the rest of us.
I understand that, thats because I always judge my arguments on the fact whether a proposal and it’s consequences would help or hurt the game itself as a long-term attractive product for the players.
Who is pleased or not plays little role in that. No hard feelings, I just can’t stand by and watch that great game be sacrificed on the altar of a convenience that would actually worsen problems we already have.
Asveron Durr, as stated in my last message, unfortunately I cannot please everyone with my improvement proposal. Suggestions and constructive criticism are always welcome. Every player is unique in their own personality, and I am confident in mine. Feel free to post your thoughts, but that will not change my intention of helping to evolve the game for the industrial class.
your reply to me tells me…that you are incapable of thinking how this proposal will hurt the future of the game. that you are selfish and self centered…your corp mates and ceo should shoot you and kick you out of null
I am calm, Syzygium, and I appreciate all the interaction this post of mine is receiving. Just like you, I think about evolutions and how they can impact gameplay. I am not an expert on every aspect of the game, despite having played since 2008, but the area I operate in — mining and industry — is what catches my attention and draws me in. My intention here is to collaborate, not to start World War III.
I totally think so, with your own alts, to produce even more capitals and/or supercaps even more efficently. That message was pretty clear. I just disagree that this is a good way to go.
I see a lot of “ENZO generation” players complaining about multiboxing. If they don’t like playing that way, they simply shouldn’t play it. Everyone has fun in their own way and plays however they can.
Everything in EVE Online is built by the players themselves, and if there weren’t people playing with multiple accounts, ships and equipment wouldn’t be so affordable. Most players would still be, even after decades, struggling with only T1 ships.
If multiboxing wasn’t so prevalent, CCP would have made different balance choices for the game and it would be much more affordable to buy anything with just a single account.
For example mining nowadays is hardly worth it without multiboxing your own fleet, because of multiboxing.
I’ll be realistic: multiboxing isn’t going anywhere.
But the least CCP can do to not worsen this balance is not to make changes specifically to help multiboxing even more, like this thread suggests.
