Ms Nieyli, if you successfully demonstrated your claim this statement would hold weight, You’ve consistently failed to do so.
I mean, the textbook definition of it is:
The action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one’s good character or the moral correctness of one’s position on a particular issue.
Please link your source so that we can all examine it for accuracy and reliability.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/virtue_signalling
Do me a favour and link your source where it has been debunked.
P.S. something something “the person who claims other virtue signal is a hypocrite” doesn’t exactly do you any favours either.
Mmm. It shows.
I’ve certainly noticed you.
Okay, so you have a definition virtual signalling. It’s confusing because you use the provided definition when talking about its definition, but the pejorative when discussing its use. This is a bit of an equivocation fallacy.
Also, the definition you’ve provided does nothing to show that one group is putting down another. This weakens the validity of the pejorative use of this term.
I never made the claim that it’s debunked. I made the claim that accusing someone of “virtual signalling” is crap. You’ve yet to demonstrate that the pejorative usage, the one under discussion, is valid. In case I’m accused of moving goalposts remember we were responding to Ms Hikare’s use of the term. Ergo, no goalposts moved.
P.S. something something “the person who claims other virtue signal is a hypocrite” doesn’t exactly do you any favours either.
No, it’s only argument from hypocrisy when you’re saying that the other person is being a hyprocrite therefore it’s okay if you are one as well.
Well, it’s a tool that’s used to gain political dividends, as per description. Which is what I’ve been saying.
Also, I wasn’t claiming a hypocritical arguement, rather than an ad hominem.
Ms Hikare’s usage was the pejorative, with is the problem.
I wasn’t claiming a hypocritical arguement, rather than an ad hominem.
You said:
If you take it as an ad hominem, which I can see how one might take it that way, It’s only fallacious if one is saying that one shouldn’t listen to someone’s claims of virtue signalling because they’re a hypocrite. If your saying that claiming virtue signalling makes someone a hypocrite then that isn’t fallacioius, as unkind as it may be.
But her usage of it is not what I’m discussing. What I’m discussing is the validity of the term, and given that there’s a dictionary definition… I don’t see how it’d make me a hypocrite.
P.S. you’re
Meh, one word in the whole thread.
It’s not the term itself, it’s its use in the pejorative. That’s hypocritical.
The reality of capsuleers paying lip service to an idea or promising aid to a cause just because they want to look good is that it happens all the time.
If you want to irrevocably squash accusations of this “virtue signalling” malarkey, then show up when you say you will.
Problem solved.
Agreed, Ms. Kalatari.
If you want to irrevocably squash accusations of this “virtue signalling” malarkey, then show up when you say you will.
Or people could call hypocritical behaviour for what it is rather than co-opting a term from somewhere and perverting it into a pejorative. Particularly a pejorative that is hypocritical itself in practice.
Drinks at the Placid bar of your choice, whenever.
I pity the cleaner
I am fastidious when it comes to company. Besides, Miss Hikare seems fun and cool to me, in a cluster lacking in capsuleers who would just enjoy the act of hanging out, drinking beers, and shooting the breeze like normal people.
DEATH TO PARTY B!!!
You know, considering all your other statements about how much you love violence and killing things for no reason other than your own amusement, I really have trouble with you using this idiom. It makes me think you’ll actually pull out blaster pistols to try to fire upon any errant puff of wind.
Now that is just silly, if I was ever going to involve killing and the local atmosphere I would not literally shoot the wind, I would pour organophosphate gas into the ventilation system.
Nice discussion Thanx, i think I know you. you gave me a lap dance once.
Good read 4 out of 5, would recommend to my friends.
Not only that, but they dislike that activity that you like.
Initially I read this to mean that my dancing was a 4 out of 5, and was genuinely offended. Now that I am no longer quite as high, it makes more sense.
Although client faces tend to be a wash to me, I’m glad you had fun. Come back some time. The praise to the thread is also appreciated. 