As per Andy_Virus a few minutes ago in his stream.
Roaming is done by very few, in null its .00001 who roam. Its either him being ganked or him ganking someone. Good fights are dead…and that is his thing.
Pvp is nothing but ganking these days…good fights are a thing of the past.
It is not difficult to enumerate the ways in which Abyssal affects those who don’t engage in Abyssal…
Instanced PVP is going to be even more detrimental. Just saying 
“I want to mine” : Okay here’s a belt.
“I want to mission” : Okay here’s an agent
“I want to explode some ships”: NOW WAIT A DARN TOOTIN MINUTE HERE BUSTER
You are out of line, young man!
Explode some ships, just not within its own sandbox.
andy… someone has just used your steam to justify good fights are thing in past and to justify to make this new instanced pvp as good replacement for real sanbox natural PvP are you agree with this?
Show me where I said “new instanced pvp as good replacement for real sanbox natural PvP are you agree with this?”
I said more options are a good thing.
I saw you posting this lie in Twitch…lol
You must have really hated it when he said it was on life support.
“bluelysian: we do our best to keep it alive” Doesn’t say much about it does it…your words.
i had just linked your message precisely from the forum past… so he can read what did you wrote 
thats all … and for looong thread the way you are threating other pilots was not different than this …
dont be hypocrite now
And as Andy said, options are a good thing…you conviently left that out. Now we know not to take anything you say seriously. You have one thought and its bad no matter what anyone says.
May i had already so many messages of your flagged to CCP … included the ones you reflect things different than i have just mentionet up thread … you get what you grow … also be fair …
i give him chance what you told precisely i linked your thread post to him… and he read it laud in channel
be fair… i had direct link your message … and he told he prefers open world pvp over this many times …
well you are giving example and referencing from a very special pilot …
Andy Virus is someone we share same hunting grounds for a loong loong time…
We are coming from same earth… same values. principles … and lot of fights we give each other … That what i mean by habitat… and many well known solo /skirmish PVP ers ect… ect… we know each other its over a decade adventure we carry on in same stomping grounds end up with create a culture tradition… and habitat… We love it… and care about it
You have shown your colours. No need to waste time at this point.
i just played your game to you… what you did up in the thread … remember ?? i just give a bit more honest twist by sending your message and he read what you told… and he told what he thinks well now… thank you
Do you think a dev team and dev company will deliberately let a feature they put effort in fizzle out? They will do everything to bring as many people into this arena game play.
Remember what happened with instanced PvE? There was a brake called suspect flagging … gone, because people farming those didn’t like it.
Remember what was said about the current instanced PvP? People didn’t like it because it was not instant enough through PvE-gate, the new iteration is made to make it more attractive …
Suspect flagging was a bad-thing-on-top-of-a-bad-thing. If you’re going to commit to a bad decision, at least do it well. Removing suspect flagging was the correct decision. but removing abyssal altogether would be even better.
If CCP puts appropriate constraints on permanent PVP arenas, I could see them being a good addition to the game. Besides, my above recommendations don’t sabotage the system. They make it 100% completely viable and sustainable without significantly drawing players away from the rest of the game - they simply make the experienced capped in the same way that you can only get so much out of missions before moving on to other PVE content, or out of Alpha before you outgrow it and need to move on to Omega for the full experience. With appropriate restrictions on PVP Arena, at some point players wanting a greater experience will need to venture into LS/NS/engage in wardecs/etc to get it.
this is a very good point. Some see the proving grounds as an end point, AeT sees it as a possible stepping stone to other parts of the game.
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Should read “wanting to gain greater experience” just because you cant learn everything in an arena. Just saying…
And stop interfering in the salt supply for my margaritas. 
I still like the aspect of the mini alliance tournament. Player driven content…
Edit; Now Mike’s interfering with my salt supply and Archer’s made me fuzzy. 
That already exists … therefor in my own post i suggested that CCP must encourage and empower these kind of players and advert their efforts .
This is absolutely not favoritism There is some corporations or either organisations like those they are totally community on focuse and serving to community with nearly no return tormendous amount of time and energy they use on it …
This is link discord of SES 5v5 Scrims discord – there is nearly 700 pvp players who is after competetive PVP and currently 300 people online… this number is great actually…
Check out the 5v5 EvE Scrims community on Discord - hang out with 559 other members and enjoy free voice and text chat.
And this is Monster Reborn discord
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I think CCP give more encouragement and empower to the players to take initiative… instead of inhibiting … and giving them some easy way outs like that …
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Then they should advertise as well as CCP does because I have never herd thing one about it.
And how big is the arena? If it were setup like the alliance tournament setup?
Legid statement …
Up to now what i see … in this instanced arena you have to go for Micro Warpdrives ! No AB no go… also you dont have so much chance with armor tank against active but more passiv shield tank … up to now one of best sugestion is Caracals … You will hear those incoming days more and more…
Now this meta familiar very familiar . one spesific security area use these alot in EVE… himm lets elaborate…
you instancing players into PVP but… since in arena noone can warp away … Points are Pointless right …
so after AB we can also take the point ( warp disrupter ) out of table tooo…
Scram still can be valuable but … context… ECM will be shining start… which already refused by many old good solo /small gang PVPers in the game but hailed in null sec
When you look at low sec you can see large variations of fits . PVP learning without using PVP s back bone modules TACKLE MODULES ???
so they use kite himm… so kite but without loosing your Point … ?? huh … how they will practice that possibly there?? meanwhile they trade that slot for extra shield???
IS there any win chance in that arena for the pilots use HOLY TRINITY ??? ( ab web scram ) when they respawned in the arena 65 km away from their opponents???
FACT : so whoever here mentioned that these arenas are good oportunity to learn PVP for new players…
Know nothing about training new players in to PVP and how to progress their knowledge understanding tactical and piloting skills …
it has only value for people shoot at each other … whoever has higher skills 5b pods and 2bil fitted t2 cruisers… wins …
And current set up this ARENA supports one META… which is veeery popular in one spesific secuurity area in eve NUL SEC!
large fleets, t2 dedicated tackles and damage focused logi supported passive shileld Pointless and scramless dps sheeps
Now this arena is perfect passage point for null sec meta pvp…
this arena is not open for so many different creative ways to engage pvp …
and this arena has absolutely zero value for teaching people without carrying tackle modules …
Can someone explain me …
everybody talks about kiting ?? man kiting is not standing 50 km and keep shooting …
kiting is holding the opponent at the edge of your point range and dont miss it … and it requires great amount of manuel piloting skills to execute it succesfully… because there no way AI orbit can prevent any experienced slingshotter to catch the target …
by the way… how or why they need to slingshot there even ???
Seriously …
Then don’t enter. As I said, this is another fad. It will pass as well.
