Remove suicide ganking from high sec

Because people who aren’t clueless tend to escape from High-Sec.

Then perhaps the targets of those ganks should stop being idiots and keep their loot value down. Against smart players ganking is not profitable at all.

they got no risk involved

Correct. Instead of a risk of loss gankers face 100% certainty of loss. What more do you want? CONCORD to revive their ships and blow them up again so they can have 200% certainty of loss?

well they are sure to make a loss of a few million and gain hundreds of millions of isk :wink: gankers take it hard when you tell the truth about their risk and their earnings.

you could simply limit amount of loot that drops in highsec allow more to drop in low and even more to drop in null would balance the risk/reward of highsec ganking compared to playing in lowsec.

would not stop ganking but would put the value of it inline with risk/reward of it. just as anything else in eve. basically there is no risk involved so earnings should not be higher than lowsec pvp ones simply put. ofc people ganking is going to protest as that would force them to go to low to increase their earnings as it should be risk/reward now its really scewed.

Why are they sure to gain hundreds of millions of ISK? Why can’t stupid players stop flying around with expensive cargo in fragile ships? For example, ganking any of my ships in highsec would not produce hundreds of millions of ISK in loot because they’re fitted with T2 modules and carry limited cargo. In fact, it’s questionable if the gankers could even get enough of a loot drop to pay for the ships they would have to spend.

you could simply limit amount of loot that drops in highsec

Or stupid players could limit their own loot value instead of handing free ISK to gankers.

well the balance between highsec ganking and lowsec pvp is really bad atm as highsec ganking with little to low risk is alot more profitable. just limiting amount of drops from highsec compared to lowsec then compared to null would fix alot of that imbalance and actually promote risk/reward. im mostly plaing in lowsec anyhow highsec ganking is way more profitable with way less risk.

basically allow less loot to drop and more to be destroyed in high compared to low and null basically let people in low and null loot more.

Only because people are stupid and make themselves into easy targets in highsec. If everyone was smart and used the available anti-gank tools ganking in highsec would not be profitable at all.

well people wont get smarter in highsec and it should not be that much more profitable from lowsec. basically the risk reward is really scewed and imbalanced. and my suggestion would solve that problem

let highsec loot less lowsec more and nullsec even more. basically good solution

compare the killboards and losses/earnings of any lowsec group compared to a highsec ganking group and you would know what i mean with the imbalance in risk/reward.

Then I guess they will continue to lose ISK. “People are stupid and hand out free kills/ISK” is not a reason for CCP to make changes.

it should not be that much more profitable from lowsec.

You’re right, it shouldn’t. In lowsec you don’t lose your ship to CONCORD so all loot that drops is profit. In highsec you lose your ship(s) to CONCORD so you have to get enough loot to cover the cost of your gank ship(s) before you can make any profit. If people in highsec weren’t lazy and stupid there would be no way to make profit in highsec and you’d have to go to lowsec to profit from PvP.

In short: make your dream happen. Educate highsec players, convince them to stop being idiots, and remove the ability to gank profitably.

or simply make droprates diffrent in lowsec and null than in highsec. basically that wont even make up for the amount of targets in high compared to low. highsec ganking is very little risk for a almost certain large reward

Only because people are stupid. And “people are stupid” is not a reason to change the game mechanics.

well it is as lowsec should be the more rewarding place even the amount of targets is against that. and more loot dropping in low compared to high wont even balance that out. simply put cut the highsec gankers overhead a bit but buff the lowsec ones. risk/reward.

atm highsec ganking is litte to no risk and huge reward.
lowsec pvp is high risk low to moderate reward at best.

Stop whining about “risk vs. reward” when the only reason there is any reward at all for highsec ganking is the utter stupidity of highsec players. It’s already impossible to make a profit ganking smart players in highsec, it doesn’t need to be nerfed even further just because highsec farmer trash doesn’t want to learn how to be better at EVE.

that is more like dont nerf it as its a way better income than lowsec is atm but with no risk involved. basically you simply want free loot and isk and who wouldnt ofc people would complain about balancing the reward out as everything else is balanced in eve.

5 characters.

lol or they could simply remove highsec and put out trade hubs at various places with the triglavian invasions and let there be a starter system or 2 would also balance out the earnings.

would fit with highsec systems going lowsec also trig event

basically remove current tradehubs let every system have 1-2 hubs and everything be lowsec except the starter systems. +null would make the game alot better than 1trade hub like jita.

How exactly do you propose to remove trade hubs that are created by players choosing to do business there, not by design by CCP?

And how have we suddenly gone from “ganking is too easy” to “remove all of highsec”? Are you really that desperate to get a terrible idea endorsed, regardless of which terrible idea it is?

CCP is not responsible for protecting players from their own decisions. Stop asking CCP to nerf highsec loot drops because some players are unwilling to make reasonable decisions to play a 100% PvP game.

then simply remove highsec and make everything lowsec. instead of giving a few groups way to high rewards.

would also solve imbalance in risk/reward with highsec lowsec and remove the false security highsec gives people so that a few can earn way to much for way to little risk. simply remove highsec and split tradehubs up. would be a great time to do it as some systems has already turned low with triglavians.

or just simply nerf drops in high increase them in low/null there should be risk reward instead of some bot gankers in high.

Or instead of making massive changes to the game highsec players could stop being stupid.

Also, why are the rewards limited to a few groups? If suicide ganking is so amazing why aren’t you doing it and making tons of ISK?

the false security highsec gives people

Highsec is very safe as long as you aren’t an idiot. It’s only false security if you suck at EVE and refuse to learn how to succeed.

or just simply nerf drops in high increase them in low/null there should be risk reward instead of some bot gankers in high.

And now we’re right back to your original terrible idea. How about we do none of them and highsec players can STFU and deal with it.

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excuses to keep an unbalanced income.