Fair … I mixed you two up.
Hey, it was a long ass post and it’s late at night. 
I don’t know why you try to reason with these guys.
I don’t actually. That’s not what I’m aiming for.
I’m well aware that it’s pointless trying to speak rationally to the irrational.
Which is exactly why we dismiss your tired excuses as the nonsense they are. Growth = life, stagnation = death. You want your little comfortable gank existence to stay exactly how it is, we want growth.
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So dumb people? So where is the risk in taking advantage of dumb people? Dumb people sound like risk free investment to me. Where is the risk in shooting a defenseless ship with a mentally challenged pilot? Your are proving the point that their is little risk to gankers for their crimes.
Once again you are helping me prove my point that ganking is a risk free never ending supple of isk. You gank one 5 billion isk freighter and it pays for the rest of your ganks. So you cant use out of pocket cost as a risk.
Yea I know some of the loot gets blown up but not all of it and thats why the gankers have orca/indy haulers picking up the risk free loot.
That was a long winded rant from a ganker or ganker tears, I’m not sure. I have posted ideas I had to spice up the criminal career path, none of it was mentioned in your rant/tears. Your getting all salty just like the miners and ratters did when CCP added the new risk to their game play. So if you want to debate jail time, loss of tethering, loss of NPC docking rights, and loss of jump gates as newly added risk for gankers, I can’t help yea. If you would like the debate those ideas, I’m all in.
Why don’t you give us some ideas to spice up the hauler career path?
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Remove bumping and concord.
There, anti gankers biggest complaint removed, gankers biggest complaint removed, everyone happy?
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I agree. Therefore idiots should stop putting 5 billion ISK worth of cargo in their freighters and flying them into popular ganking systems
So where is the risk in taking advantage of dumb people?
Why should there be risk? Dumb people have waived their right to have the situation involve risk or loss. It is not CCP’s job to step in and protect the dumb people from their own mistakes.
I agree, ganking has grown too stagnant. Therefore CONCORD delay should be doubled in all systems, insurance payout on CONCORD losses should be restored, and the 15 minute aggression timer should be reduced to 5 minutes.
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That would be off topic, the post is about removing suicide gankers from the game. My position is to keep the suicide ganking but add some risk to their never ending risk free supple of isk. I have said this over and over and over and over. This post is to funny, I need to get my orca in here to pick up all these ganker tears. You all just got a bank to rob and defenseless miners to shoot in low sec and now your crying because people want to add more risk to your game play?
If you want to keep suicide ganking in highsec then you are off topic.
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And we’re back to being smart. Why would you take a freighter through a known ganking system. If you have a freighter, you have probably been playing Eve long enough to know not to take a freighter through that system.
Here’s a funny thing. If you avoid Uedama, you can get do the Dodixie to Jita route with one less jump. The only negative is you need to go through Olettiers, a 0.4 system. However, only 16 player ships have been destroyed in that system. Why is that? Because far less people use that system. You are far less likely to actually meet a gate camp there than Uedama. Why? Because despite its lower security status, its not a path used by most people.
I mine in 0.5 and 0.3 space all the time and I’ve never been ganked. Why? Because I mine in an out of the way area where gankers don’t go because its off the beaten path.
Just be smarter than the gankers… which appears to be hard for a lot of players, even when people offer them options. Rather than use these options, they just whine on the forums and called people sociopaths.
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Except my idea was a compromise and yours is a sad troll attempt. Poor kid you just can’t let go of being toxic 
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Your idea was a compromise between stupidity and insanity and adds nothing to this discussion. Bumping has already been nerfed to the point where it is no longer an issue, and CONCORD is never going to be removed.
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So whines the troll who constantly violates decency and courtesy by insulting anyone who doesn’t play the game the way he wants them to.
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Oh well they can’t say I didn’t try, some people only know how to be mad.
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Well now thats the risk they take to save themselves a 4 hour trip flying 50 jumps.
You of all people has use the, effortless fountain of isk, as the point of your debates. Why should the criminal career path have a risk free path to never ending supple of isk? If dumb people are your defense than they can also be use to end your debating point. Obviously frieghter pilots keep taking the risk to fly 10 jump as opposed to flying 50 jumps. That does not take away from the fact that gankers have a never ending fountain of isk and no risk, it only adds to the fact that CCP needs to add risk to the criminal career path. CCP has created a fly trap in some places where gankers go uncontested and face zero risk. Concord isn’t a risk, they are a joke to the career criminals and are no risk to a criminals career path.
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Look in the mirror much hypocrite?
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Uedama and Jita are on my avoid list but once again this post was about removing suicide gankers from the game all together. My debate is to keep suicide ganks and add some risk to the career criminal. Whats worng, you to dumb to deal with some new game changes or you just mad because people are talking about nerfing your never ending fountain of isk? How about you debate my ideas with something other than your ganker tears. Gankers are like cat fish, they want to sit in a risk free channel and have risk free food poor into their mouths.
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What’s wrong is your inability to deal with gankers. Apparently, you’re too dumb to deal with the game as it is. Also, its not my never ending fountain of ISK, as I said: I don’t do high sec ganking. But apparently, in your rage at constantly being shown how wrong you are, you forgot that little point I made.
And if you think high sec ganking is a never ending fountain of ISK, you should take a look at the numbers that come from null sec ratting. But why look at facts and ways to avoid ganking when you can just come on the forums and whine and beg CCP to hold your hand?
Ummm… you’re the one who has uses the argument fallacy of appealing to emotion. Also, in a debate, you would need to use facts and evidence to argue your point. And you really haven’t provided any… other than the gank numbers in a known ganking system… which is easy to avoid…
By the way, you were also the first to use ad hominem (personal) attacks by calling people sociopaths.
Here’s some more advice: don’t discuss debate with someone who has actually studied debate… you’ll lose. Just like you are now.
How about no? Again, Eve is 17 years old and while ganking has been nerves quite a bit (no more war decs unless the corp has a structure and holding corps allow you to avoid war decs even if you have a structure…
Okay, first you need to prove that the risk/reward ratio of suicide ganking is unbalanced compared to other forms of gameplay in either fun or ISK production. And as per the Rules of Debate you must provide facts that are accurate and be able to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it.
I’m not afraid to debate you because you’ve already shown you aren’t capable of beating me in a debate…
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How is pro gankers debating points off topic in an anti ganker debate post?
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