Remove suicide ganking from high sec

Yeah and mission runners also shouldn’t be exempt …
… am I right?

Especially considering how easy and safe they have it.

Hahaha, what an asshole he is.

Project Discovery is way too safe.

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PI is waayyy too safe as well.

Cloaked drifters should camp the customs offices.

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Triglavians should enter mission pockets and start repping the NPCs inside to gain their favours.
I’m pretty sure it doesn’t hurt them having friends in the empires.

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Triglavians are a useless NPC. Pretty soon everybody will have positive standing with them.

Stop thinking short-term.
We don’t know what’s going to happen.

Highsec distribution missions aren’t particularly risky either.
Especially lvl1 to lvl3s are just boringly easy.

:fist:

Drifter menace!

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There is nothing wrong with it at all but CCP needs to add risk to your game play. Like jail time, the loss of tethering to a station, docking rights, or the loss of gates. Null sec should be left alone but high sec and low sec should get added risk.

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I agree, if CCP is adding risk to career paths than every path should get its nerfs and newly added risk.

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Yeah.
Sure.
Right.

Because you haven’t provided ample evidence your word isn’t worth anything, hu?
Nicolai Serkanner is right.

Btw, you need to learn not to ignore people’s posts just because you’re too ■■■■■■ up to respond to them.

Is there some university where all these anti-ganking perma-victims get trained in their rheotoric? They all sound exactly the same.

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43.98 trillion is ample evidence that the gankers need more risk added to their game. try to say they fear the risk of concord without laughing. CCP needs to spice up their game play with some newly added risk to the criminal career path. Anything you use for defense is old risk and CCP is adding new risk to the game. Stop living in the past and embrace the change people want to force on your game play. Miners and ratters took their punishment now its time that the criminal career path face real risk. CCP needs take a bite out of crime or at least add some real risk to the criminal career path.

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How about you get a CCP DEV to explain why the criminal and mission running career path was left out of the, added new risk?

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Same place gank kids get trained to keep spamming about salt and killmails.

In before lock.

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The problem with your analysis is the first 10 ships I saw when I looked at the zkillboard were gank ships getting CONCORDED.

So that 200,000 ships is more like 20,000 ships ganked. And Uedama is a known ganking system because its a 0.5 between two major trading hubs. Its an ideal gank location.

Its like comparing the number of stores in New York City compared to… I don’t know… Helena.

Yes there are ganker ships in those kills. Did you look at the cost of the freighters that were killed compared to the cost of the gankers ship? You spend 15 million isk to pull off a 5 billion isk heist. Thats crazy returns on your investment that needs to have some new risk added to it. You kill one freighter and someone else just paid for your next 100 ganks. CCP needs to add more risk to your risk free fountain of isk. No one should have a never ending risk free fountain of isk.

Can we get a CCP DEV to speak up on this matter?

You know …

I’m an intellectual. I’m an intellectual with an attitude, but I’m an intellectual.
I’ve spent many years training my logical deduction, analysis and my powers of observation.

And now I’m going to challenge your attention span. When you feel bored reading it, or notice you don’t actually comprehend what’s written, then go take a break for a few minutes. Come back when you’re ready and keep reading.

So … sure … if you want to talk evidence, let’s talk evidence.

First of all … ISK destroyed is not a measure for destruction. A single freighter could be filled with tens of billions of isk and all that it would provide evidence for is the fact that the pilot was dumb enough to overfill his freighter. Hundred dumb freighter pilots can easily reach hundreds of billions of ISK per month.

But that isn’t actually important.

There’s also Jita, which makes Uedama look silly …
… but you have no idea how much ISK is getting destroyed in Jita every single day …
… otherwise you would have posted that one instead.

This, btw, is evidence of you just keeping looking for new reasons which confirm your opinion.

But that also isn’t actually important.
Noteworthy, definitely … but not important.

What’s important, in the context of evidence, is that you’re not actually explaining why it’s evidence. “Because it’s such a high number” isn’t actually providing an explanation. There’s systems where the number is far higher, too. The reasons for your hypothesis are missing. Yes, that’s what it is. It’s not even a theory, it’s a hypothesis.

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Why is it a hypothesis? Because you have no supporting data.
You have data, but you only want to believe that it supports your hypothesis.

Evidence: If there was too much destruction caused by suicide ganking …
… then CCP would be reducing the amount of destruction caused by suicide ganking.

I’ll get back to this one later in the post.

Even ignoring that ISK is not a measure for destruction, because all value depends on the economy, the data you present, 43.98 trillion, is not evidence of anything unless you explain why it’s evidence of something. So far, all it is is a high number of which you believe that it’s too high, without explaining why you believe it’s too high. Again, “it’s too high” does not work. Not only are you not Trump, we’re not Trump supporters. People around here carry a certain amount of intellect you obviously weren’t prepared for.

Next:

Your posts provide plenty of evidence that you never really thought this through. Your very first post already complains about it, indicating that something, which you apparently didn’t get over, happened to you in-game. So you start posting your hate non-stop, trying to convince people that you’re right, that suicide gankers are sociopaths (or “evil”), that there needs to be risk added to it and so on.

You, yourself, provide evidence that you didn’t think this through. You just keep finding more and more reasons supporting your belief, when what you should be doing is looking for evidence not supporting your belief. That’s something intelligent people do, because they want to prevent making themselves look like idiots. This is about something you don’t actually ever consider. Something which intelligent, thoughful people always consider:

“I might be wrong.”

You also contradict yourself. It doesn’t really make sense, you know? Further evidence that you did not actually think this through. You’re just running on instinct. Something happened to you in-game, which caused an emotional reaction dictating your behaviour. My guess is that you’ve gotten suicide ganked. The reason for this guess lies in the fact that actual sociopaths usually really hate when others have power over them.

Guess what happens when someone gets ganked?
The ganker has power over them.

There’s a particular group of people who reacts really badly to this. They’re usually the ones who think high and mighty of themselves, who can’t handle the fact that someone shot their ass back to the clone vat. It literally disrupts their fantasy and makes them horribly angry. Now … this all by itself doesn’t provide much base for anything, but it was you who actually got me into that direction. You wrote this:

What you’re doing is constantly trying to find new reasons that confirm that you’re right. Eventually you got to this one.

Now … ignoring that you obviously have no idea about sociopaths, psychopaths or even your very own obvious personality disorder, you are blissfully unaware of the fact you, yourself, are trying to disrupt the gameplay of suicide gankers.

No, it does not matter if you believe that you’re doing it in the name of “good”. You’re not a good person, as evidenced by your own posts. You’re a pseudo-intellectual asshole trying to make us believe you speak of some sort of imaginary fairness, as in, suicide gankers don’t have enough risk, while at the same time having no actual experience in suicide ganking.

You also completely ignored my post about it …
… where I’ve explained “suicide ganking” in relative detailed yet simplistic fashion …
… to make it clear that you have zero understanding of what’s involved.

You’ve ignored that one just like you ignored my post pointing out that you, by your own words, are a sociopath.

And why?

Because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

The only sociopath here is you, who is trying to bully everyone else into giving him what he wants. The fun part, from my perspective, is that you must be aware that it’s completely useless to do so on the forums and that the only ones who you need to talk to are the CSM or CCP themselves. As you definitely know that this isn’t going to get you anywhere, you’re instead posting on the forums.

You’re literally no different to all the others before you, who did the exact same thing. You are literally just a copy of a copy of a copy. You probably believe you’re the first one trying this! You probably believe you’re original! You probably believe this is going to go anywhere!

Well …
… would you look at that …
… I have evidence of the contrary!

Before the BlackOut last year, ever since CCP released CrimeWatch 2.0 many, many years before, they’ve spent a lot of time trying to please carebears and farmers. They’ve nerfed PvP in all variations and made the game safer for those who only ever wish to horde richness. In all that time they did not touch suicide ganking at all. Not once. Not once.

After the BlackOut CCP started releasing more and more buffs to destruction. You can read the patch notes and the respective discussions about it yourself. In the last year CCP has done more for PvP than in all the years since 2013.

Do you honestly think CCP is going to remove destruction from the game, when all they’re doing is increasing destruction?

Do you honestly believe CCP gives a rats ass about what some random asshole thinks,
when that random asshole isn’t even intellectually capable of both providing and explaining data and evidence?

You can be a Balos Tritapo …
… who spent two years on this forum lamenting about PvP and how CCP needs to remove it …
… just like you might spend the next two years on this forum telling us about the evil suicide gankers …
… and how they have too little risk. (while not having a single clue about the game mechanics at all, not to forget!)

Balos and his several alts is gone.
All the others before him, who were just like you and him … all gone.

Based on all the evidence provided by you random pseudo-intellectual asshole, I can only recommend rethinking your position.

A lot of people are gone, that’s why ganker kids are so desperate to not be restricted, they’re already running low on targets, forcing them to put effort into ganking is too much for their teenbrains to handle.

I suppose gankbabies just look around at things choking and say “this is fine”, just like the meme. There’s a reason the most active section of the Market forums is the section used for selling characters XD but gankbabies can’t see that, they can’t see anything that isn’t in a killmail.

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