Resource Redistribution Update

[tutucox_Khamsi]

@Mathias_Xiani

its not quitting

yes it is

[Nevyn_Auscent]

@Fish_Hunter

your chart comparing the ores has a ton of errors, generally all ores except dark ochre are getting their “worth” slashed when looking at yesterday’s Jita prices

Compared to right now yes. My chart is comparing back to 2013 before CCP did the great ore buff which is part of what has caused the current issues. Context is key, as is reading the whole conversation.

[Salt_Foambreaker]

The future of new player manufacturing:

[Chromie_Gaterau]

I find it interesting every time that “Fixes” being introduced from CCP are not really FIXES at all, but changes that continue to ■■■■ WH play and give in to the NS cry babies and nothing is fixed in the process except that subs decline.

[Nankeen_Heron]

Sad to let my 10+ years as a paying customer lapse, but that seems to be the only way to send a message. It’s been fun.

[Vix_Sparda]

Well, i think i’ll get off this flaming train wreck here. its been a fun 6 years. and i can see you chuckle fucks have nothing but disdain for your null players. hell your players in general. the phrase “it gets worse before it gets better” comes to mind. BUT adding CCP in front of that. it just gets worse. you guys have no plan. do you? what plan leads to executing your game? what the hell else are you working on? mobile eve? that’s a flipping joke? so what else do you At CCP games have?

[Nevyn_Auscent]

@Salt_Foambreaker

The future of new player manufacturing:

Ok and?
Will the market suddenly cease to exist, will NullSec suddenly not have a surplus of high ends, will reprocessing suddenly cease to exist?
New player manufacturing will be fine, just like it was before 2013.

[Salt_Foambreaker]

I know my skill queue addiction was hard to break but I cut them off a few months ago and glad I did now.

Unfortunately they won’t feel the “real” situation until post-COVID and by then it will be too late.

[Azalais_Selenica]

@Nevyn_Auscent

New player manufacturing will be fine, just like it was before 2013

What’s the point for a new player to manufacture stuff if they need to buy minerals somewhere anyway? May as well just buy the stuff they wanted and skip a lot of trouble.

[Salt_Foambreaker]

Ah so they will buy those minerals which will be in glut supply from heavy low sec mining and therefore be cheap enough?

Keep in mind that is an Industry I BPO, for a T1 Light Drone. It’s as entry level as you get.

The goal was fine, the idea sucks and was not well thought out or implemented.

[June_Iridium]

This entire thread is a perfect example of bullies telling you your toy sucks and you shouldn’t play with it anymore. Bad for the community and health of the game!

[Salt_Foambreaker]

With low trade and low industry skills the margin may even be in the red.

[Nankeen_Heron]

@Salt_Foambreaker

I know my skill queue addiction was hard to break but I cut them off a few months ago and glad I did now.

Still training EDENCOM ship skills - and haven’t flown one once! (In the bin with the Planetary skills…)

[Sir_John_Hawkins]

The Future of Eve? Shuttle-Fleets, cause you’re not able to pay the money for a frig, and dont think about ammo, you are not able to buy enough plexes to get enough for a fight!

10 years earlier a drake cost about <20 million isk, they nerved it, cause it was too powerful! xD

And you got a Navy Drake, that was pretty identical to the pre-nerved Drake! xDDDD

I think you will find lots of more of this…

[Nevyn_Auscent]

@Azalais_Selenica

What’s the point for a new player to manufacture stuff if they need to buy minerals somewhere anyway? May as well just buy the stuff they wanted and skip a lot of trouble.

Well, yes, generally speaking I’d agree with that. They should be doing that now since the production market is generally so depressed that you are better off buying the item than buying the minerals anyway. And the time and effort involved in researching up a BPO leaves them far better off just buying the item.
Unless they are training industry skills in which case learning to set up supply lines right from day 1 is important.

@Salt_Foambreaker

Ah so they will buy those minerals which will be in glut supply from heavy low sec mining and therefore be cheap enough?

Where on earth did I say anything about heavy low sec mining, stop inventing stuff, I said Null Sec, just like it used to be with overproduction of high ends in null being exported to highsec. And it will happen, and it will be exported to trade hubs.

[Teckos_Pech]

@Max_Deveron

Mineral cost has a negligible effect, cause you are not spending ISK to acquire them, you and your corpies are putting in the effort instead.

Oh God…another person who does not understand opportunity cost. This is nothing more than “if I mine my own ore then it is free,” nonsense. Sheeesh.

[Sereschkin_New]

My opinion is probably as much worth as a silent fart, but I will say this: Due to these upcoming changes, as of October, I will finally have time to play Seiken Densetsu 3 on snes

[Azalais_Selenica]

@Teckos_Pech

This is nothing more than “if I mine my own ore then it is free,” nonsense. Sheeesh.

In some regard it may be free since i didn’t spend any of my time afk-mining. Or otherwise there isn’t as much difference between watching youtube and watching youtube mining.

Yes you afkmine haters i’ve heard your arguements a million times already, another one wouldn’t make a difference

[Salt_Foambreaker]

@Nevyn_Auscent

I said Null Sec

You need to read the fine print in the announcement, some materials are low only.

[Aelianna_Kurvora]