It could be worse, the vortron guns could target missiles, scan probes, corpses, etc - in addition to drones.
Hey. That might give them a use to firewall a friendly ship from missiles. Minimise damage, take a vorton hit to avoid entire missile salvos.
Which⌠About says how bad they are that would be an upside.
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âNow introducing Vortron Projectors - almost as good as defender missiles!â
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So can I get 90% of the LP back I wasted on the edencom store ?
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In case you donât know, based on average market pricing, buying skillbooks on demand is more than flying out and picking up a book⌠i donât recall the exact percentage that its higher, but it is.
That is for skills that are supplied directly from NPC schools.
That isnât relevant in this case because the only place the skillbooks are seeded is to the character sheet. Any other place youâre seeing them is a holdover from log-in bonuses IIRC so they are subject to extreme gouging there.
You can blame CCP for that one. The cost of the skillbooks is largely bound up in rare holographic loot drops. Done intentionally to avoid quick propogation as ships of the line if theyâre even slightly out of balance on the overpowered side.
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They are great tanks, but no damage. They need a fleet with them.
A bit late for this update. Hereâs the thing I made.
Taking a Skybreaker with T2 Small Vorton Projector and 3x Vorton Tuning System II and comparing that against Kestrel with T2 Missiles and 2x Ballistic Control System.
Things to keep in mind:
- Skybreaker damage scales with number of targets so this is just damage on first ship hit.
- Weâre ignoring projection just to compare damage application to the target at speed.
- Kestrel can up damage with rigs which I havenât included in this comparison.
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Well knowing CCP, itâs working as intended
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Amarr is thriving. 
It will be bigger than Sakht in another year or two!
The big thing here that most people would say is âitâs intended to hit 3+ targets so that damage isnât accurate.â
Sadly youâre looking at these scenarios then:
- Youâre shooting 3 ships, but either will die because itâs 3 vs 1 or theyâll run away because you canât tackle them.
- Youâve got a tackle with you, and youâre hitting your own tackle too.
- Those additional hits are drones, which you wouldnât be shooting in the first place.
- Youâre in a group, which youâd be better off with focus fired ships breaking select targets.
The problem with Edencom is the same as the problem with Trigs, just in reverse. A trig ship is OP in a 1 v 1 fight because itâs designed for that engagement. In a fight were it canât ramp up (because of range, targets not living long enough, etc) itâs subpar. Conversely Edencom is crap at small engagements because itâs AoE isnât utilized. However, if they make it as AoE deadly as it should be itâll be OP as hell in big fleet fights, so they gave it a dull edge. That just makes it crap in both fights, and not a problem you can fix without making it meta changing.
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The battle report seems wrong, Romantic Exorcist is a Bjorn Bee account.
@Verzak_Bastrom Hereâs another report from that same roam with BjornBee fcâing, with the second needlejack, at Oasa after some cleaning up. The twitch stream of that GM week event can be found at GM & ISD roam They fared better in Oasa than in Delve (surprise surprise 
) but as one participant said âthe only things these ships shoot is good vibesâ
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Heâs saying CCP markets them as being for attacking the Triglavian menace. The NPC Trigs, that is.
Thanks man.
i think it was intentional as the changes donât address the issues with the Edencom Fails much at all. The lp cost was high but the needed materials to exchange for the bpc or skills is extremely limiting, Where are the t1 basic skillbooks for the ship and weapons? When will the Fails stop being based on missiles which are junk for doing most things? A bs that has the dps of a cruiser is junk.
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