Rorqual ORE Development Edition

Pythons and Moloks have nothing on this in terms of Nullsec Staging Undock Flexes :stuck_out_tongue: #bump

If any others existed, they would have turned up at one point or another. Considering every single collector doesn’t have one, it should be a very clear indication.

Furthermore, ccp re-released the silver magnates prior, supposedly one off ships. It is very safe to assume that CCP will not be releasing a rorqual for plex in the NES. If anything, this places the stratios emergency responder in a precarious position as potentially being re-released again, as compared to a ship that shouldn’t exist in the first place, it makes more sense.

Any person claiming to the contrary of there being more, should provide evidence, or their word isn’t worth much of anything.

Gl with the sale, may bid on this as soon as AT is over and my finances are clearer :stuck_out_tongue: (Lord give me pythons please please please please :pleading_face:)

I personally don’t get the point of reissuing as that applies to every single AT or collector ship in the entire game. Like claiming a State Raven is not worth 2T because “it might get reissued one day” sounds not very convincing to me :slight_smile: I don’t get why you are trying to use it as an argument here.

The buyout is set to 3T and as a one of unique capital it is most definitely worth that price range. I ask you kindly to keep this thread to bids only. Thanks!

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You’re proving my point, if you didn’t get it, that’s ok :slight_smile:

Transactions in Eve are actually information gaps. If someone is willing to believe that is rare, they will pay for it.

“Yeah? Well, you know, that’s just like uh, your opinion, man.”

I’d recommend providing better evidence that this is a one-off… but you cannot because there were 1000s of these. So instead you are asking me to do the job for you. Look, we know how few Stratios ER, Silver Magnates, and Guardian-Vexors were issued by CCP - that is the fundamental difference between these ships (with their known rarity and history of issuing) and Rorqual ORE DE (with its unknown rarity and rather controversial reason for existence - due to a buggy/flawed ship/BPC to ship+SKIN conversion process back in the day).

I am not arguing it is very rare (read my post). I am just saying it is incomparable and its actual rarity is unknown. Even OP mentioned that they know about another ship (Caracal Nugoeihuvi Edition) that exists due to the same flawed ship conversion.

So if anyone, it is you who makes claims without sufficient proof.

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If you read closely, you will see that it is the other way around. There is more pressure on CCP not to reissue AT and special event ships, and there is less obligation to reissue ships that were given in abundance. Given its history of issuing, Rorqual ORE Development Edition is similar to AU-79 (which got reissued). Not so long ago, we saw the interbus shuttle being reissued. And the fact that the SKINs got converted to Nocx Rush, makes it even easier to reissue. Again, I am not saying it will, but there is a difference and we know similar cases of reissuing happened before.

I never said it was a one of either, I said it suggests heavily in that direction.

Currently there is proof of one existing, and none to the contrary that there are more. Its stats are different than the standard rorquals, making it very much unique. They can re-release the skin as much as they want, it doesn’t affect this particular ship, and due to the fact it has different stats.

A very long time has passed, and this particular ship has been known about for a couple years, though is finally up for sale now. You are trying to compare gold pod, which is intended to exist, and the interbus shuttle, which is supposed to exist, to a ship that isn’t supposed to exist. It is quite clear they are very different in nature.

I am merely just observing the evidence of the past what, 12 years this has been in the game? And only one has popped up? Evidence points to it being the only one. You can what if all you want, that isn’t proof at all. That sort of reasoning will work with any obscure or one off item in the game, and thus isn’t relevant in a proof driven discussion right :slight_smile:

I don’t think you understand my point, it feels like I am arguing with Chatgpt at this point. To me knowing 5 or 20 specific ships existed with a known history of issuing is different from saying “There were 1000s of such ships, but they all got converted to something else… except some that didn’t due to a glitch… but it is not some, just one because I think so, because I have not seen another for X years… oh and by the way there is another ship that exists due to the same glitch, but it is a different type of a ship, so it only solidifies my claim that there is only one ship of such type”. In my opinion, these are incomparable groups of ships to say the least.

Well firstly it’s clear you don’t know how these came about. Secondly, you tried comparing ships and items that are supposed to exist to this, which isn’t. Thirdly, how much longer do you want to wait for proof to the contrary, another 10? 20?

Should also be mentioned that the Caracal Nugoeihuvi Edition, the one you are referencing, was far more common than the rorqual ore development ediotn. Yet has been clearly accepted as a 1/1 by many. Weird :slight_smile:

I think 10 years without any singular mention of it anywhere or public trade history is enough to assume it is unique. I have previously put up a bounty of 25Billion isk for any proof of the contrary but my dms remain empty to this day.

I am happy to be dmed (discord: feyrytail or ingame Kami Inari) for any bids or to discuss this beautiful unique.

Seeing that the discussion is going outside of actual bidding after noticing your latest comment about a 25b bounty.

Two years ago there was a thread on reddit(also mentioned above)

There was a particular comment on that reddit history stating that the ship was missed and that ship was not converted into a skin. (Note a skin can last a lifetime, yet that ship hull you show contains the very same look as the skin for such rorqual).

Lastly is there actually a reason to sell such a rare ship?

What are the chances of such ship being removed and converted into a skin in the future once a buyer is found?

No ships were missed by the conversion. That is not how this rorqual came to exist.

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the thread was about me and the very same ship, actually! but good spot :slight_smile:

No, CCP will not suddenly change it. While I won’t share the exact convos with the Lead GM I’ve had, they said that any action taken in the future will be serverwide for all items of a class instead of a case by case basis.

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In other words, it is just as likely they will suddenly decide to remove all t2 bpo from the game

I appreciate you responding and it is so inspirational to learn that such a rare miner hull is one of a kind in New Eden.

So, if CCP decides to change all serverwide items of this class of item, i.e. rorqual ore developement edition, into skins, it will suddenly change into a skin?

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They can’t (from a technical standpoint)

At least not currently (though I don’t really see that changing)

Either way CCP has historically, not ever done this. There are a lot more weirder items out there that have not been changed. Like the Elite Cruiser Wreck as an item. (I may be forgetting that ones name specifically, but it is a wreck as an item in a hangar)

I think 10 years without any singular mention of it anywhere or public trade history is enough to assume it is unique. I have previously put up a bounty of 25Billion isk for any proof of the contrary but my dms remain empty to this day.

It is enough for you, it is not really statistical. You can check for some actually known rare items and will not find these mentioned in the last 10 years either. Does that mean there is just one? Not really.

What? Why are you twisting everything? It is you who compared the ships and I said they are incomparable. If anything, I doubt you know how these things work.

Just read again, but slowly. I only said that we’ve seen a re-release of “special edition” items. This ship was issued as a “special edition” as well (bpc). The fact that 1000s of these got converted into something else does not change the fact that it is a “special edition” item. I just said that there are examples of other “special edition” items that got re-released. Including ships or items that were released as part of the same “initiative/product” (AU-79 and Rorq ORE DE bpc were both given to the owners of eve 10th anniversary collector’s edition).

The fact that you try to justify one-of-a-kind (not just rare) with your logic is already appalling.