Round Table Assembly Skarkon Emergency Session Results

Good heavens.

Many of you may recognize me as a member of EDI since just after the fall of Raravoss. You may also recall that I have stated that all Four Empires are no blameless paragon of righteousness.

Under this context, even considering my general disagreement and hostility towards Kybernaut and Collective alike, I cannot fault the warclones for negotiating a non-aggression pact.
Had this been active support of Collective efforts, I would consider them effectively Kybernaut. However, this is apparently a case of neutrality in the interests of evacuating civilians.
In this instance, they serve the interests of those civilians exclusive to all other interests. This tends to irritate loyalists of any Empire, from what Iā€™ve seen.
In the matter of serving civilian evacuation efforts, and disregarding loyalist interests whilst theyā€™re at it, I commend them for this.
Some of my comrades in EDI may be displeased with me for this. My reply is ā€œSorry not sorry.ā€

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I was apparently not understood, so I will rephrase. I do not believe the accusations the Khumatar has made about your people.

If that is what the chief of the Thukker tribe has decided, then that is how it is.

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My apologies then for misinterpreting the intent and taking a defensive stance, weā€™ve been on the defensive for quite some time these days. Having reread with the correct light I can see how your stated intended meaning was contained within the statements as well.

It did however provide an opportunity to demonstrate we could satisfy the burden of proof for our claims, at least to a significant substantial degree whereas the burden of proof for the accusations against us have not been satisfied as you point out, and cannot be satisfied as I have hopefully demonstrated as well.

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ATTENTION

AT 2230 HOURS Bosena Accords Covetor-class mining barge Hen Wen disembarked from the Avalon Warclone Foundry and refuge off Skarkon II. Hen Wen proceeded with mining operations in the system around the wreck of the Ammatar Holy Dome in-system, however when Hen Wen returned to her previous mining location she encountered two Tempest-class battleships in echelon under the command of the Seykal Clan.

Hen Wen fell back to the refuge, alerting the occupants as I, as Warden, took command of the control suite and issued orders for crews to man their battle stations. Multiple attempts at communication were sent, as well as alerts to allied groups to coordinate troop movements as a deterrent while warbarge Fisher King was placed on standby.

[ 2020.10.09 21:47:26 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Local : Skarkon
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:31:16 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > I would like to know what a Seykal raiding party is doing at the Ammatar Dome wreckage suddenly
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:31:32 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Other than headhunting, presumably.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:36:06 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Seykal fleet, are you assisting in civilian evacuations from Skarkon II?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:44:29 ] Johny Clash > Wow a bowhead
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:48:32 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Warbarge Fisher King on standby ahead of fleet deployment.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:48:45 ] Johny Clash > Very cool- never seen one of you before
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:49:24 ] Johny Clash > Hey you have a prototype cloak by chance? Iā€™ll pay like 3 mil
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:49:51 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > None at the moment unfortunately, no. Hoping to watch the show?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:49:57 ] Johny Clash > show?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:50:34 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Enemy fleet in system. Not sure what theyā€™re up to but this can be fun.

While staging the command tower and allied scouts in the region positively identified an additional eight Tempest battleships as well as three Bowhead freighters as a part of the Seykal fleet. Control tower and allied scouts were ordered to remain on standby and hold out until our allied battlefleet could arrive on station along with kybernaut volunteer auxiliaries. Scouts, command, and kybernaut auxiliaries were placed under strict orders not to engage Seykal Bowhead transports as they had previously been identified as civilian transport but were clear to engage the Tempests should they approach the command tower.

Shortly after, a Triglavian Raznaborg Clade fleet warped on top of the command tower. Unlike local Triglavian forces Raznaborg Clade were marked as hostile and proceeded to destroy and pod a local capsuleer who arrived to assist. Whether this was due to philosophical and diplomatic differences between Clades, fault IFF, or incorrect intelligence is unknown. Regardless, Fisher King was pulled back into station while we attempted deescalation with the Triglavian fleet.

[ 2020.10.09 22:52:22 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Triglavian fleet, standby we are not hostile.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:52:49 ] Johny Clash > Wuhuh why trigs- Iā€™m positive standings, itā€™s not fair
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:53:24 ] Johny Clash > Can you give me dock permits by chance?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 22:53:33 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > I have no idea [why that happened]. Weā€™ve had a nonagression pact with the Collective and have been non hostile so far.

After recovering from the chaos and seemingly reaching an amicable state with the Raznaborg fleet (read: They stopped shooting at us) Seykal commander Sesli Ashok was spotted in-system. Banter was shouted from the ramparts.

[ 2020.10.09 23:01:23 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Oh well hot damn its Ragnar-Rat. I was wondering when you would show up.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:01:27 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Just leaving I hope?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:01:33 ] KnightGuard Fury > Sesli Ashok welcome back
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:02:09 ] Johny Clash > Yessir, now that my ships been blown up by my own brothers in armsā€¦
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:02:23 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > I like your Bowhead. Very stylish. Great taste.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:05:13 ] Lauralite Anne Brezia > Ah, Ms. Ashok, lovely to see you again.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:05:17 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Oh come on your not going to call me floppyspine now? Iā€™ve been working on my comebacks.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:06:07 ] KnightGuard Fury > ā€œDonā€™t know if you havent noticed but the seykal are currently fighting the trigs.ā€
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:07:09 ] KnightGuard Fury > ā€œand losing if i might addā€

Seykal fleet began to stage on the Skarkon II Orbital Customs Office supported by the Tempest fleet, presumably to evacuate further troops and civilians at which point the Raznabog clade began attacking the Seykal transports.

As we were denied multiple times when we requested a ceasefire and were in fact informed that all attempts at assisting in transporting civilians off-world would be seen as an act of ā€œslavingā€ the Bosena Accords opted to continue staging and allow the Seykal to manage their own evacuation plans rather than risk being seen as hostile by the Seykal or jeopardize our ongoing non-aggression pact with the Collective.

A certain pilot from the UNF @Lauralite_Anne_Brezia however, had their own conscience and opted to assist. Placing their battleship between Triglavian and Seykal forces bought the Seykal clan enough time to complete their evacuation when they otherwise might have been destroyed by the Triglavian fleet. This was not done under Bosena Accords orders nor were we consulted beforehand. Quite the contrary I had my own suspicions that the cargo was purely military in nature and would have resolved to see it burn. But this was a snap-moment reaction by a BLUEFORCE pilot to potentially save any refugees that may be onboard Seykal transports.

While I must stress that the Bosena Accords is an entirely seperate entity and command structure from the UNF I recognize that our deep diplomatic ties to the Neopian Federation leaves this conflict and our nonagression pact with the trigs in an odd position at first glace. I would argue, however, that it need not be so complex. After consulting with Kybernaut auxiliaries, it was agreed that the UNF acted honorably in defense of innocent lives. Any resulting conflict should not be seen as any act of malice towards the Collective but a method of proving their character, an act worthy of glorification.

We will continue to leverage our diplomatic position to ensure there are no long-term effects of this incident to maintain good relations with both kybernaut clades, the UNF, and the Collective.

[ 2020.10.09 23:15:29 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Did the trigs just wax the Seykal bowhead?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:18:18 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Seem to be having issues there maā€™am. Too bad we didnā€™t spring for that truce.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:20:00 ] Attn Thaddeus Reynolds > Attention damaged seykal bowhead, attempt to warp out
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:20:46 ] Lauralite Anne Brezia > Ashok, get out while you can
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:22:52 ] Attn Thaddeus Reynolds > Sesli, whatā€™s the word on those transports?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:25:10 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > For the record if you arenā€™t carrying refugeeā€™s I imagine our associates in UNF would have been perfectly happy to let your hides burn. Iā€™d recommend getting out quick before the Stribog we called in show.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:26:04 ] Sesli Ashok > Youā€™re collaborationist filth, fleshpuppet. Youā€™re the one whoā€™ll burn.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:26:50 ] Lauralite Anne Brezia > I saved your boys and girls on those bowheads Sesli. Maybe take a hint.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:27:16 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > No sun left to burn Iā€™m afraid. Efritā€™s failures saw to that.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:27:23 ] Rak Kronos > o/
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:27:55 ] Sesli Ashok > Yeah, Iā€™ll give you credit for the assist, Brezia, but your choice of ā€œassociatesā€ stinks. Iā€™d cut loose from these traitors if I were you.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:28:30 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Welcome to the apocalypse, friend. Itā€™s very disco.

Once Seykal ships were cleared from grid, Raznaborg Clade transports began landing their own planetary raiding parties on Skarkon II. Raznaborg Clade then pulled their fleet to the Avalon Warclone Foundry station where they began carefully inspecting Fisher King. It seemed like they didnā€™t quite know what to make of independent warclones or our little community, observing us for some time before pulling back without incident. I am grateful for this initial encounter, and hope it can be the start of a symbiotic relationship in Skarkon.

After, banter was exchanged on all sides as is customary.

2020.10.09 23:29:31 ] Lauralite Anne Brezia > Make the most of it and get as many out as you can. You know, under different circumstances I might offer my services to let you relax a bit.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:31:34 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > You know Iā€™m somewhat on good terms with the Triangles myself. Are there any survivors youā€™d like me to help scoop up for you or is that still slaving?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:31:39 ] Attn Thaddeus Reynolds > Transmission from planetary relay - ā€˜Seraphā€™ Logistics - ā€œSesli, are there more pockets of people to evac planetsite? Weā€™ll get them to shuttleports if you can keep the path open.ā€
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:32:36 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Fisher King launched and on standby. Hopefully no IFF issues this time.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:34:19 ] KnightGuard Fury > now that my own interests have shifted Sesli Ashok and im not attached to the accords anymore, I can offer my non aggressive assistance from Vherotek United.This solely being towards helping the republic, nothing personal or anything involving military action. you can think of me as the nuetral party who doesnt take sides if you will. besides, my problems are with krullefor more then youre roudy bunch of mercenaries
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:35:39 ] KnightGuard Fury > not to say i wont fight you in the future if things go that way
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:36:25 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Raznaborg Clade, welcome to Skarkon II.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:37:55 ] Sesli Ashok > I guess youā€™ve graduated to genocide, Triglover. Handing over our people to these butchers. But thatā€™s just what Iā€™d expect from a rogue warpuppet. Cartel, Amarr, now Trigs. You bend over and take the bullwhip handle first up the arse no matter whoā€™s offering it. Just so long as you get to play with it too, eh?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:39:09 ] Lauralite Anne Brezia > Quite the contrary, heā€™s been doing a great deal to keep focuses away from most civilian centers while UNF and indepent evacuation forces have lifted civilians to the EM astrahus, and then on to Ennur
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:39:23 ] Rak Kronos > im goign to kill you all
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:39:27 ] Rak Kronos > how about that?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:39:37 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Harsh words for someone thats fine being a lapdog for RSS spooks. Did everything youā€™ve done over the last year come from them or did you just blunder your way into all this?
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:40:32 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > Iā€™m going to go back to my mining you interrupted if your done getting splattered across the asteroids.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:41:13 ] Lauralite Anne Brezia > Galm, leave the splattering to me and my escapades.
ļ»æ[ 2020.10.09 23:41:26 ] Galm Eskola-Fae > I walked right into that one.

tl;dr: One of our mining rigs got surprised by a Seykal Fleet. Both sides circled and exchanged insults until the Triglavians showed up to slap them down. A minor diplomatic crisis occured, but war is hell and it was done for the right reasons so we all agreed to chill out. And that is the story of how the United Tribal Security Forces ran away from the Skarkon War.

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Raznaborg is not a Clade, itā€™s some kind of a rank designation. Those could have been any clade.

I am glad to see that despite all the yelling, when push comes to shove evacuation attempts are not interfered with (by humans, that is - triglavians shooting them and passers-by is nothing new).

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Raznaborg is, to my knowledge, a subclade that designed a variation on several of the base designs of triglavian vessels used by the Collective. That said, the primary force of vessels were registered as Svarog Clade when transponder equivalents were checked.

It also bears mentioning that, there was a Dazh Potembra class industrial of indeterminate Clade origin that was noted to have entered atmosphere of Skarkon II at least once after transiting the poco, though it is currently believed to have been a Veles vessel

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Gosh, Iā€™m glad the Trigs are here to establish their utopian society and nobody went and declared ā€˜non-aggressionā€™ with a whole damned culture of frikkinā€™ thinly-veiled murderhobos.

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Did you see they also seem to be fighting each other?

Yep. Dedicated liā€™l murderhobos. Run out of townies, they start murdering themselves.

More so the non-aggression in this instance was primarily in regard to generalized civilian evacuations. Not making these areas particularly notable targets by taking undue shots at landing triglavian entities. Leaving the fighting focus to other areas While majority of evacuations proceeded.

As most of these efforts are in wind down, that stance of not making ourselves an active target is no longer a primary focus of doctrine, at least amongst UNF aligned forces. UNF is pulling out our primary ArSec contingent within the next 48 hours, while UNF aligned warclone, clone pilot, and otherwise specialized backed ip units will continue to operate in system alongside Bosena Accords forces for the foreseeable future.

And, I would like to point out to you specifically Arrendis, that neither UNF nor the Accords ever asserted the trigs to have some utopian ideal. That is squarely on various kybernaught groups.

Yup, totally true. It was a two-for-the-price-of-one salvo. :wink:

Speaking of:

What do you call a non-aggression declaration only one side is party to?

Target Practice.

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Lets not lose our heads people. Initially Iā€™ll admit I was deeply concerned by frontline reports of Triglavian troops clashing with ours. But I would hold off on the "I told you so"s just a bit longer if I were you. Clearly if the conflict last evening demonstrated anything is that among our allies we are not a monolith and do not have one unified ideological outlook on our relationship with the Collective at this time. Is it that unreasonable or that far of a jump for us to assume the same of the Triglavians? What we attributed to misidentification of IFF frequencies yesterday may in fact be deliberate due to an internal disagreement among constituent clades.

Of particular note, last nightā€™s triglavian landing force seemed to be at least in part comprised of Svarog Clade forces. If what we know of Svarog clade rings true, they are the more traditionalist and conflict-oriented of the clades and more receptive to trial by combat over diplomacy compared to Perun and Veles clades. Shortly following the system reaching liminality, I had our communications team issue the following message cross multiple frequencies in Skarkon.

ATTENTION. Native soldiers and augmented infantry are working to make Ishuhuolvi Peninsula of Skarkon II ready for liminal proving. Triglav proving should occur here rather than away from population centers. Warclones and native soldiers await the coming glory of zoria triglav to engage in battle and complete proving. REITERATION. Warclones and native soldiers await the coming glory of zoria triglav to engage in battle and complete proving.

Weā€™ve received a lot of flak for this, but we had good reasons to issue the statement:

  • To place Triglavian forces between ourselves and Red Troop, effectively preventing a combined Red Troop and United Tribal Security Forces offensive of Ishuhuolvi.
  • Set, on our terms, a designated battlefield so we can prioritize evacuations and limit collateral damage
  • Tie up Triglavian, AEGIS, UTSF, SARO, and other potentially hostile armies to buy us time to complete civilian evacuations
  • To complete proving as a potential avenue for future diplomatic negotiations

The United Tribal Security Forces pulling back yesterday evening was unexpected, but it appears that hasnā€™t stopped the Collective from accepting our challenge anyway. Out of the frying pan and into the fire I suppose, but I at least hope that this conflict is for the purpose of competition and testing rather than the process of extermination we came to expect from Khumatar Efrit. As a friend very aptly put it, we called the ball and Svarog clade appears to be playing. Hopefully thatā€™s a good thing.

Bottom line, I am authorizing combat with Collective in designated depopulated burn zones in Ishuhuolvi. We will complete proving. Outside of these proving grounds, however, our non-aggression pact is to remain intact.

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Are your warclone teams first generation or revised?

Could the Triglavians be having issues with the sleeper implants? (On top of the martial playful communion?)

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A majority of first-generation Templars were hunted to extinction by our own kind following the Amarr Empire placing a bounty on any and all Templars killed, both in regular operations and in Molden Heath. Most of them had ā€œGone 514ā€ at that point and were either feral or not all there themselves.

If we did have any first generation clone soldiers within our ranks there would be very few of them and are liable to keep silent on the matter assuming theyā€™re able to stop themselves from whatever causes them to go haywire. If.

Given the speculative origins of warclone ā€œfifth lobeā€ implants however its potentially possible that the Triglavians may recognize it as reverse engineered archeotech. Considering their hostile relations with other precursor civilizations (namely the Drifters, who many suspect are Sleeper descendants) Iā€™m unsure what theyā€™d make of using them. We could be ā€œdeviantsā€ using ā€œancient enemy azdajaā€ technology, or the Triglavians may be fifth lobe implant users themselves.

Itā€™ll be really telling to see where things go from here, and where the Collective views our kindā€™s place in this world.

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Fortunately, youā€™re not.

As you should.

The one-sided one referenced above?

Enjoy your clay pigeon-hood.

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