[Service] [Dead] Code against Ganking - Closed 05/12/22 - Step by Step to a safer Highsec

So whats your conclusion?

Why are they missing?

He’s just using another definition, but it’s still the exact same information.

The main difference is zkill is free.

I’m sure newbros will really benefit from paying this guy to tell them that Uedama and Jita are dangerous systems. Fascinating research!

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OR they could take up this fascinating hobby themselves and be safe in knowning that wherever they are, a gank is happening.

What?

That’s not what zkillboard claims. Squizz has specifically called out where he doesn’t label certain losses as ganks and has never tried to find all ganks. There are always more than just the ganked list (which was started for the last burn jita event and mainly picks out larger end ganks).

A more correct statement would be:

So, according to zkill at least 20 ganks happened in the latest 24 hours. I’ve found that the number is closer to 143 by my criteria. I’m so good and awesomely 715% better than zkill.

That last bit might not really be more correct at all, but it certainly comes across as a bit self congratulatory.

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Wait so it only detects ganks that have already happened?

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It is also free right now… So take you chance and maybe test it on your own.

Its free for new players for three months.

But i will try to explain my calculation for you:

Right now i have upkeep costs of 20€ per month and calculated with 50 characters using my service.
20€ is one month worth of playtime and ish.

1,3b for a Plex instead / 25 Million ISK = 52 Users to be self efficient

I tried to explain, why this statement is wrong and my service act as a advanced filter.
If you believe in alternative facts, I can’t help you here. Maybe B4R is the right place for you.

Also, I am not complacent…

Noone forces you guys to be here, if you don’t like it ignore it :+1:

If you aren’t just pulling data from zkill, then which ESI endpoints are you using to collect kill information?

Woah, what’s that supposed to mean?

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It is possible to post kills with an external kill link.

It’s also possible to add your api for killmails directly to my service. This way kills won’t land automaticly on zkill, but I can check them for ganks.

Both is currently under development and not yet available for public yet.

This doesn’t answer the question. You claim to have a bunch of extra killmail data that isn’t on zkill, but the only ESI endpoints that give killmail information require you to have the character or corporation which received the killmail authed to your ESI app. You’re right that you can add kills via a killmail link, but I doubt anyone in hisec who’s getting ganked is sending each of their killmails to some bunch they’ve never heard of.

In short, unless you can provide a source for your data, this service is a scam.

My Statement in the Post, made for Alpha release (you cannot quote an edited post):

Code against Ganking is an application that analyzes public killmailfeeds and filters out ganks. Based on this information, it automatically categorizes gankers and gives them a standing from 0 to - 10 depending on their activity and some other factors.

Updated Statement, for beta release:

Statement from my Website:

We detect all ganks with a custom algorithm and put them into a database.

I don’t see any false information here. ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ I have described very precisely what exactly my code does and what it does not.

You guys post several times a day how bad it is, how much of a scam it is… without any of you even testing it. I will take your posts thankfully as bump and proof of my work. o/

Thats actual great Feedback! Roaming Gankers get a higher Threat Rating!

Thank you very much!

Sounds botty.

Scam or not. Either way this is high quality content.

Thumbs op to the OP.

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It’s only a scam if he charges people for it. It’s neither original, nor unique, and very easy to circumvent for gankers.

So not a service worth paying for, but still +1 to the OP for creating a tool that is usable by others in the community.

I personally think the ā€œCodeā€ against ganking is a pun too far… really…

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I can confirm this is a scam. The whole point is to identify subscribers and then target them for ganks, using their own isk against them.

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Nope that’s called a service. Quality does not matter this is up to the customer to decide.
It’s a free market and people can do whatever they wish with their isk.

A scam would be

making claims that are not delivered

or

using api access data to do something else than advertised

Just being bad isn’t enough.

Yes. Reread what was written. It is easy to circumvent, so he isn’t able to detect all active gankers, which is part of his claim:

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If you aren’t paying for it, then it’s not a scam - just a wildly impossible claim.

If you are paying for it, you are being scammed, specifically because:

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So he’s specifically creating a service that offers to report all active gankers in highsec in order to plex his account.

If you are paying, you are being scammed.

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Fixed that for you.

…and friendly bump, I suppose.