Skiff vs Procurer mining output

I am using a t2 laser with t2 crystals and no implants. I am trying to see if there increase of ore mined for the skiff or if they end up mining the exact same amount in the same amount of time.

The Skiff gets a mining cycle time reduction for each lever of the Exhumers skill, an extra low slot for a mining laser upgrade and a larger ore hold reducing the need to return to unload.
The Skiff is also a lot tankier.

However, it is expensive and a nice kill mail for s bored ganker. It’s not immune to being ganked, but if fitted well is a tough bugger with a good ability to do damage.

Yes, the Skiff will output more m3 than the Procurer, else why would there be a T2 variant if there wasn’t an advantage…

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I happen to have similar T2 fits for Procurer and Skiff on Pyfa. With the same (high skill) character:

[Procurer, Procurer]

Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Republic Fleet Medium Shield Extender
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Plagioclase Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Plagioclase Mining Crystal II

Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II
Medium EM Shield Reinforcer II
Medium Thermal Shield Reinforcer II

Hobgoblin II x5
Mining Drone II x5

Effective EHP 64.7K
Mining yield (total): 23 M3/S
Price (Pyfa estimate): 74.8M ISK

[Skiff, Skiff]

Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

EM Shield Amplifier II
Survey Scanner II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Republic Fleet Medium Shield Extender

Modulated Strip Miner II, Plagioclase Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Plagioclase Mining Crystal II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II

Mining Drone II x5
Salvage Drone I x5
Valkyrie II x5

Effective EHP 85.6K
Mining yield (total): 26.5 M3/S
Price (Pyfa estimate): 269M ISK

You’re looking at roughly a 33% increase in tank with this fit and a 15% increase in yield for a 260% increase in price. If you’ve been playing long enough that the extra 194.2 million ISK doesn’t matter - enjoy your Skiff but don’t bother insuring it - platinum only pays out 30% of the hull cost!

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I wasn’t sure if the barge bonus stacked onto the skiff bonus which is why I asked. I ASSUMED that the skiff would pull more ore but you know what happens when you ASSUME, so I asked.

Mining Barge bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to ship shield hitpoints
2% reduction in Strip Miner and Ice Harvester duration

Exhumers bonuses (per skill level):
4% bonus to all shield resistances
2% reduction in Strip Miner and Ice Harvester duration
Role Bonus:
50% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints

The only bonus to actual mining is the the duration and the bonus is the same for both so I thought maybe the skiff added its bonus to the barges bonus for a 4% reduction per skill.

Thank you @Terak_Romaller and @Do_Little for your helpful responses. That was what I was hoping and the extra cost will be worthwhile in the long run. :slight_smile:

A skiff is not as much of an opportunistic target as say, a Hulk. It can fight back, and requires a lot more DPS to kill before concord responds.

So someone has to want to gank you, otherwise they’ll move on to a softer target that requires fewer ships.

It’s no guarantee, it just changes the odds a little.

If you do find yourself being attacked by players, remember to overheat your tanking mods.

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Exactly. Your best defence when mining in a Skiff is someone else mining in a Hulk (or a even better a Mackinaw) in the same belt.
The wolves go for the weakest in the herd.

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You have to have Mining Barge trained to level V before you can start Exhumers, so as soon as you can actually fly the Skiff you get a 14% reduction in cycle time. At Exhumer level V your total reduction is 20%

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Insurance is just an insult and a joke, like a poorly thought out gimmick that was a good idea in somebody’s head and got slapped into game with nobody paying enough attention to veto it.

Insurance is simply a bet that your ship will explode within 90 days. Whether or not you take that bet has nothing to do with the value of your ship, only the size of the stake and the probability of explosion.

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