Small Citadels

[Shamo_Runner]

r/Eve - Small Citadels

I’d really like a Cit that is 100-200mil ISK or less with almost POS like anchoring times, it’d prob have very little fitting options if any but I’d like it for short time living in rando wh

my design: -150mil ISK -2-3hrs anchor/online time -72hr offline/un-anchor time -no highs/mids/lows -does not require fuel (it can’t equip modules so no need for fuel) -Each character is limited to 2,000,000m3 -Limited HP (since it doesn’t have fuel it is always in low power) -T2 cruiser and down can dock -T2 barges and down can dock -Porpoises and T2 haulers and down can dock

I think something like this would allow new groups to try out the citadel life, or explore ns/wspace more. It’s cheap for a citadel, but not as cheap as a POS

Please give thoughts on more/less to the design, feasability, and other designs alltogether

Fly Safe o7

[MinerArt]

@MinerArt

Assuming we plan to make small and tiny versions of the existing structures (I won’t bother to give names to any of them) we’d need to reduce their ability to do things proportionally.

A smaller version of a citadel would only allow one service module while a tiny would have zero. A tiny could still technically host a corp office so I have no objections on either of these.

I would not agree to smaller versions of a refinery and I see zero reason to even think of a tiny version as it would have no ability to do what the player would deploy it for. No refinement and no reactions makes refinery a dull boy. A small version of moon mining capable would just hurt everybody who already deployed a medium which would feel like a massive nerf.

A small engineering complex would have one slot which would allow it to do the research it has bonus for but a tiny one would be too dangerous to deploy for anything with no modules to do what they’re intended for anyway.

In addition these objects should not be allowed to dock freighter/bowhead/orca if they’re small and nothing above cruiser if they’re tiny. Tiny places don’t get battle type docking. Sorry. Cost/benefit. Industrials are still allowed including their T2 versions at both of these locations but only a Porp can dock up. Otherwise keep their anchoring and unanchoring cycle the same. Leave the vulnerability at 3 hours as it just can’t get smaller than that.

Reduce the HP by an equal percentage comparing the large and x-large version.

Keepstar for example has 72m shield while Astrahus has only 4.8. 1/15th. Thus a tiny version would have 320k shields.

Fortizar vs Astrahus is 14.4 to 4.8 so 1/3rd would result in a small being 1.6m.

If we go Azbel vs Raitaru we’d be looking at 9.6/3.2 so still would be 1/3rd of 1.06 repeating. Evil…

That’s just shields. Armor and structure hp would be reduced equally as well. Tiny structures would need to be considered never low power mode though otherwise they’d be effortless to push over. I would also never see these in null space either as without concord protections they’d be dumpster destroyed so fast they’d be funny. A single Marauder could probably push both of these down alone.

Team Five-0 would need to speak up and consider the other effects such as costs to build and what benefits it would have. I’d consider half a bil for the tiny and 3/4ths for the small.

I said it before so I’ll just copy it here.

[Shamo_Runner]

One thing I didn’t mention was that tethering would prob not be available with these, as they’re cheaper and can be set up and torn down fairly quickly. The safety measures of it would be semi-safe, as in some type of shield transfer and armor/hull repair or a POS type of a shield. Most of everything else in your post was accomadated for in my post. ty for the thoughts

[Lugh_Crow-Slave]

why does ccp even have a search function on here

[MinerArt]

@Lugh_Crow-Slave

why does ccp even have a search function on here

Humor probably.

[DrysonBennington]

Really good idea. I am against Renter Space but when a new facility is being talked about,then more power to the design.

A Renters Hub should come password protected which the rental agent would assign the password to access the hub the first time. After that the renter is free to come and go as they please.

A Renters Hub would allow up to 25 Capsuleers to have access to their own personal node in the hub.

Central to each hub and based on the rental agent’s determination a hub could have 10 of the following:

1. Jump Clone Bay
2. Ore Compression
3. Reprocessing Plant
4. Repair Shop
5. Docking
6. Insurance
7. Limited Manufacturing ( up to three slots per the rental agreement)
8. Tethered Capacitor Recharging
9. Tethered Shield Repair
10. Tethered Armor Repair
11. Increased Docking Bay Storage (base volume is the size of an Orca with module expansion allowing two more Orca’s to be docked with rigs)
12. Increased Item Hangar Storage ( base Item storage volume would be 50,000 m/3 with module expansions allowing up to 250,000 m/3 volume worth of items to be stored.)
13. Market - would allow renters to sell their items on the market to make ISK for the Hub
14. Renter Hub Sign - allows the rental agent to design a logo for the hub that would be placed above and around the hub similar to a Keepstar.

Being able to be tethered to a hub would be standard as would a fitting service also be standard.