Smoke Screen After Jump

The early 2000s called, they want their out dated and weak insults back.

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Yeah I’m gonna get that from all you eve players because the insult applies to all of you

Try some “yo mamma” jokes.

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Yeah, you came in here as a new and inexperienced player and a bunch of people came out to point out the mistakes in your understanding and how you should improve as a player. Then you get caught up in the couple of people who threw snide remarks and now you’re just joining the rest of 'em in the dirt and slinging mud around.

One of two things will happen. Either (1) you grow a thicker skin and learn to be a better player or (2) you join in with the rest of the mudslingers and complain.

Just keep in mind that crying about how the game is unfair or too difficult, when those troubles stem from your own inexperience, will not garner any sympathy. You just walked in and said, “I’m new and don’t really know what I’m doing, but here’s how the game should be changed!”. Hope you can understand why people won’t take too kindly to attitudes like that.

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I love how so many come on here and fail to read before throwing in their two cents. Here’s what I said in my original post in case you missed it.

I’m not complaining and I’ve shown appreciation to those who’ve actually given reasonable constructive responses and took the time to actually read my posts before spewing their vitriol over any suggestion of a change.

Yo Momma is so fat she’s the “real reason” you still live in her basement and have no girlfriend lol

So you’ve picked Option 2. Congrats, your salty ass will fit in here perfectly.

If the answer was not obvious, it’s “Yes, that would be unreasonable.”

It would be unreasonable to introduce a completely new item with a completely new mechanic just because some newbro who doesn’t know how to play the game made a rookie mistake that can be easily managed by just getting good.

Toss on top of that an entitled attitude. Nice.

Welcome to the eve-o forums. You’ll fit in with the rest of the trash just fine.

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Well glad to be in lousy company

I had a ship with align in 1.87 (under 2) soon as i hit warp i was locked and scram and history. It is BS, because i followed the words of Omega pilots and I did what was told to do an NOPE. soon as the stealth started to fade I was targeted and blown away. Its ok, keep track of those that kill you and especially the ones that blow your Pod and come back, stalk them on killboard and see where they are a majority of their time and payback cometh!

Learn what you can and kill them 10 times for every one they did to you. In this world you cant go to jail.

Enjoy the revenge.

Even better. Take it out on members of their corp as well and when you pod them, tell them to thank (insert your targets name) for their loss because of that pilots action, they will pay the price.

I am learning and one day…

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Yo momma so fat she logged into Sisi and now there’s no room for anybody else.

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Alphas are by no means incapable based off of SP limit or skills you cant train for most things. No they cant cloak or use T2 ships, they can still fit for speed, tank and even for killing ships that weaken themselves so they can target and volley weaker ships quickly. Outsmart your opponent rather then complain about how you cant.

Good one. Try an ethnic slur that doesn’t match my actual ethnicity next, that should be a real zinger.

Everyone read your post and has pretty uniformly told you that yes, it would be an unreasonable item. You decided to argue the point, and from a position of ignorance. :woman_shrugging:

There is nothing here that requires changing the game to correct - you simply need to play smarter.

Perhaps this happened on a different character, but your loss history does not include anything with an align time below 2 seconds.

That aside, while it is technically possible to catch something with an align time below two seconds, it’s a vanishingly rare occurrence. In over a decade’s worth of playing Eve, it has never happened to me. I think it’s more likely that your align time was slower than you believed.

Its ok, keep track of those that kill you and especially the ones that blow your Pod and come back, stalk them on killboard and see where they are a majority of their time and payback cometh!

Learn what you can and kill them 10 times for every one they did to you. In this world you cant go to jail.

If you’re getting that emotional about losing a ship in Eve, you have absolutely no hope of getting “payback” against someone who understands that ships are ammo.

Not getting emotional about anything.Playing the Game. A big push on this game was the fact that you can do what you want and how you want with no RL punishments.

If it makes you feel good and it is contained in a make believe world then go for it (again, as long as there is no RL crime or offense being committed).

That is like saying wanting to make members of CODE pay for attacking you is just you being emotional.

Yes another alpha pilot which will remain nameless.

Enjoy the game play it as you desire, it is the wild west in space.

Well, I saw the fits before posting. The specific fit together with the specific ship was meant to die. Sorry to say, mistakes were made. What I wrote is true. You might not believe me, but that is a different case.
Think and adapt. The mechanics is already there. Smoke screen is crap.
You can be very competitive as T1 explorer and the feeling when you literally humiliate way stronger gangs chasing you is priceless especially being in T1 frig.
Cheers and have fun,
BB

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Why not scout first? U can fit an Atron with sub-2s align, a tiny sig/sensor ratio to make u v difficult to scan down or a shield tank, plus a reasonable scan strength for gas sites. Go look first then if ur WH is clear then go fetch ur venture, heron or whatever.

So your idea for an alpha counter is not required.

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tl;dr Thread So Far: Suicide by Undocking with Bad Fit

Pls Continue :crazy_face:

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I will answer your question if the answer is not apparent in the comments.

Would it be unreasonable? Yes absolutely it would. If CCP just introduced overpowered counter measures to everything, there would be no point to playing EVE. Part of what makes EVE the best MMO is the complexity inherit in the game. If I got popped heading into a wormhole, I currently have a few options:

  1. Don’t go into wormholes;
  2. Keep going into wormholes and getting popped;
  3. Learn why I got popped and learn how to prevent it in the future.

For option 1, there are so many things I can go off and do with far less risk, and I wouldn’t have to learn anything new. For option 2… well… I shouldn’t have to spell it out.

Now, for option 3, if there was just some module I could go fit that would 100% get me through, where is the fun in that? Yeah, I get to explore the WH; yay me. But my heart wouldn’t be thumping, I wouldn’t be watching my back constantly, and I could just go harvest resources and get rich all by myself and not have to worry about anything. That gets boring pretty damn fast. Instead, the game requires you to study. You need to determine first wtf happened in that WH. Why did you crash and burn? What caused it? You have to learn and adapt. That’s a huge part of the fun.

This all touches on another point: EVE is all about risk vs reward, and WHs can offer great rewards. Hence, the huge risk you take in entering them. Take away the risk, and why should you get rewarded? Again, your idea is unreasonable because it removes the risk vs reward aspect of entering J Space.

Finally, your idea is unreasonable because CCP is a business at the end of the day. If you could get all you wanted as an Alpha, where is the incentive to upgrade to Omega? From a practical economic standpoint, your idea is unreasonable because it would cut into profits. Want a cloak? Omega. Want T2? Omega. Want to explore a WH unimpeded (relatively anyways)? Omega. I came back to EVE after a couple year hiatus just last weekend. I lasted about 4 minutes as an Alpha before I upgraded. Knowing what you can have is huge incentive to upgrade.

Hope this answered your question.

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Dude, people are offering you real options and ideas on the fix the issue you are having with Eve… instead of listening to them, you expect the game to change to fit your wants.

I get tired of bringing this up, but my wife got ganked by a gate camp and she didn’t come on the forums are cry… she got back to playing Eve Online and then when I got home from work, she told me what happened and then we discussed what she could have done differently. Damn, she didn’t insist on the game changing to fit her desires, she learned how to play Eve Online better.

Nobody likes a show-off.

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I started as an alpha and made the mistake of running WH data and relic sites. 50M isk worth of loot, and I needed to hit that one last box. A ship came up on grid and then disappeared in a few seconds. Panicked, I warped back to my WH bookmark…WTF, why did I stop 10K from the gate, and what’s this hazy thing around me? Why can’t I warp to my safe? Hey…this guy just re-appeared out of nowhere…and I’m dead.

That’s when I discovered bubbles and cloaky…and upgraded to Omega. Dude who smoked me had a nice convo, told me how to fix this, and sent me 25M isk to boot. Stayed out of WH space until I could fit cloak.