I personally have been asked by groups about the viability of removing all say athanors from a pocket with ice and placing their own with tax. After giving the figures of my own experiments you may see groups do this for the passive income. Having the only ports in a reasonably populated area is insanely lucrative if you can keep it that way with little effort
The other route is to start your own protection racket which was even more lucrative as you can charge a flat amount per structure. It involves policing and threats and of course making examples of those who fail to pay however it will likely become the norm
Edit: to clarify those were only given to old friends. You want exact figures go try it
For those of you who are not looking and making comments without knowledge you can start by looking at an alliance called Spectrum Alliance, who last I looked cleaned out almost all the structures in a number of constellations in Kador.
Itās simple, they push for the so called āno wardec securityā for the small guy, pay mercs to bash independent sturctures and milk hisec to add funds to their wars. But you now, āProtect the weak and the childrenāā¦ lmao.
Upwellgeddon incoming!
Destroyed upwell structures drop a wreck that is salvageable. You get around 100-200 mil in salvage from the medium structures. You get more the bigger the structure is.
I dont think this is the case with POSās.
This is happening now as in before the war dec changes limiting them only to people with structures. So your timeline is incorrect, what is the betting you will be saying this as if it is true a couple of years in the future, it is the same as people saying blanket war decs were caused by the removal of the watch list, nope that was happening beforeā¦
Perhaps this is going to cause people to gang together to defend key structures in hisec, or at least I hope that happensā¦
Quite right, there is a value in blapping Upwell structures which is why I could never understand the people whining that there was no point to blow them up.
No, they blap stuctures now so that their own infrastructure is ready day 1 of the new wardec system. Then new system is made only to discourage the small guy to own a structure.
Yes, you do have a point, in that the sheer number of people who just plonked them down made it too much of a challenge.
So after December as people can avoid war decs by not having a structure, only very hardy souls or more able entities will put them down so this could change the way hisec works. As far as I am concerned anything that pushes people together in hisec is a good thing.
Itās not like this has been a long running complaint for highsec structures over their lack of defensive capability since they get none of the AOE weapons which actually make Citadels dangerousā¦ People couldnāt possibly have been complaining over how they lack any serious force multiplication ability for the entire time.
Very true, I had come to the conclusion that I would have to use the school of fish approach to put up multiple Raitaruās and have one fully rigged and try to hide which one it was.
It is incorrect game balance and CCP are especially poor at this.
So this is in your own mind and is very simplisticā¦
Is it a problem that people are just shooting structures to shoot structures? If you canāt defend it, you canāt defend it.
As for specific numbers when it comes to system indexes and so, I havenāt crunched the numbers so I canāt say if itās balanced or not. Hopefully CCP knows how to balance. But from past experiences, sometimes it does feel a bit like the above youtube clip.
However in my opinion, anything that stops the structure spam and forces players to organize in order to get said structure bonuses is a good thing in my book.
Depends on your perspective, if you think you are playing a deep meaningful game at a strategic level and people come along and shoot it because they can, or they want to upset you, or they think it generates imaginary tears to give them a kick then it is a bit of a let down when you think you are playing something deepā¦
Why do you think that I have not put any structures up in hisec period, it is because I am unable to defend them. As I pointed out in this thread that if this change pushes people to gang up then it is a good change. Just near my base system someone put a Soityo up, in hisec and it is a two man corp, and they now have a war dec from PIRAT, that is seriously dumb.
The balance is out in terms of what hisec currently is and what dominates hisec at this point, now if entities do gang up then the balance would be different, perhaps CCP does know what it is doing here, but only time will tell.
That is not an issue, though I do find the inability to put down a structure and have it for my own use and have it hide its location when it is put down unless probed is a bit lame. But how would that be structure spam if it did not show on your overview, though of course we all get to see them with the sudden flash of hidden structures when you first arrive in a system. Seriously dumb design by CCP thatā¦
But we agree there, it is a good thing if it does, will be interesting to see how this develops if there is any life left in hisec of courseā¦
800 character nullsec alliance? Assume everyone has at least 1 alt in there (some will have more), now itās maybe 400 people. Spread across several time zones, now you have maybe ~100 online at any given time, although some might come on just for the structure kill if theyāre really dedicated. That means the fleet size is maybe 150-200 people. There are plenty of options to deal with that.
Now, if youāre saying you got hit by a fleet of 800 from a nullsec alliance, thereās only a few reasons they would go through the grind and itās not for kb statsā¦ all those reasons come down to you crossed them in some way, and you might want to consider doing some diplomacy.
Well then, how about anchoring structures in a bunch of systems instead of just one? After all the whole point of uniting in order to defend is so that you can defend your structuresā¦ no one said anything about everyone using exactly one structure in single systemā¦
Also thanks for trying to get sneaky nerf to low secā¦ may you become a sacrifice to Blood God.
The highsec corps should be the exception rather than the rule. Just because you all want to have your 1 man corp, doesnāt mean you should get the perks and benefits of those that are able to work together. Personally Iāve been waiting for years to see CCP bulldoze them all into lowsec/nullsec space.
