It would be interesting if “surrenders” and “ransoms” were officially supported in EVE.
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• Surrender - On engagement (but before your ship is destroyed), you offer to surrender your ship (saving your pod). If accepted you pod (or escape frigate) is ejected from your ship and you get a 1-minute invulnerability.
• Ransom - Same scenario, but you offer up x ISK/PLEX to save your ship and pod. If accepted you get the same 1-minute invulnerability/1-minute weapons timer.
It’s enough to warp to a wormhole, safe bookmark or other stellar object - but not enough to really be abused.
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Thanks to @Uriel_the_Flame for the excellent suggestions.
Which can be exploited by doing this to your alt / fleetmate / whatever.
Maybe if further limitations are imposed or dunno.
You could teleport to your medical station but then it could be exploited to get home your implants safely, which even your original proposal could be used to (get through smartbomb gatecamps with an invulnerable pod).
Maybe accepting the ransom / surrender results in invulnerability but also an emergency warp and instant safe-logoff where on sign in you warp to the random point where the emergency warp brought you not back to the gatecamp or whatever original location?
Still can be exploited through alts to instantly log off and avoid consequences.
Anyway this aspect should at least be addressed before it can be realistically considered. In my opinion.
In the first scenario, you forfeit your ship - so it can be captured by the victors (it’s not destroyed - in case that wasn’t clear). But you could shorten the invulnerability timer on both to say 1-minute and 2-minutes, respectively ( if you’re worried about exploitation).
Yes it was clear what you meant, my reply didn’t even mention that part.
And yes a minute or two seems more reasonable, though still enough to get through a gatecamp even in a pod.
Maybe you couldn’t use gates but could dock up in a station or structure instead and if have one scanned down maybe could also go through a wormhole?
Sure, that certainly works. 1-minute invulnerability with a 1-minute weapons timer? You can still warp to a safe (or any other location).
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Sounds good, although that would also prevent docking I think.
Yes, but just for a minute.
Well as you would be invulnerable anyway I guess if you smash the dock button the last few seconds you should be impossible to be locked and blown up in time before you could dock.
Surrender: pod gets a 1-minute invulnerability (enough to use a gate or two, max).
Ransom: ship gets a 1-minute invulnerability/1-minute weapon timer (can’t dock or gate for 1min).
So next time my paladin/freighter gets attacked in hs i send a Ransome to myself?
If i get caught in a plex in fw in an unfavorable fight?
Anytime I’m about to lose just about anything really?
When i catch a paladin out rating in null i send him this then bump his ship for 60s? And kill him anyway.
Am i immune to bubbles? Because if i am Any time i come across a bubble camp I’ll just Ransome myself and if not well i can keep you in one for 60s easy
You always have to rain on my parade… The idea was that the surrender/ransom offer goes to the attacking forces. But I’m sure you’ll find a way to twist that…
Well yeah, just takes one alt with a civilian Gatling to become one of the “attackers” lol