Terrible calculator

How is it possible that a game focus so much in math and industry has a calculator that does not have commas?

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There’s a comma between the 0 and =. :thinking:

I’m more worried about the lopsided + sign… especially since the forum also shows the + lopsided, just in a different way. :thinking:

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This has to be…

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This is like an American demanding the measurements in the game be switched to miles.

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The game calculator uses your PC’s decimal settings.

For me my prices are with dots for decimals for some reason, probably because I didn’t bother to change it to my local settings with commas for decimals:

and it appears my calculator too uses dots rather than commas:

But for Dyver above it has inherited the comma for decimals, like I had on my previous pc.

So what exactly is the problem of this ā€˜terrible calculator’?

That it uses a dot instead of comma?

Change your PC settings.

Digit grouping…. thousands separator.

1,000,000,000.00 instead of 1000000000.00

That’s what OP is talking about and he’s right. We are dealing with billions and there is still no digit grouping.

It’s been suggested in ā€œLittle thingsā€œ a while ago, but not yet implemented.

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Is that it?

I didn’t see the OP say anything of the sort, so I didn’t want to make any assumptions.

Grouping thousands happens in different ways across the world:

So when the OP complains about ā€˜missing a comma’ in the calculator it’s not clear whether they are missing the thousands separator or want to use a comma rather than a dot for decimals.

If the last part is the problem, it’s an easy fix. EVE seems to copy your system’s settings for the decimal separator.

You have a calculator on your person at all times. Use it…

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It’s obvious that the OP is not a native English speaker and couldn’t express himself clearly. I work with people from all around the World, so I have to understand unclear phrasing.

Which is an extra reason to not assume they want commas as thousands separator as that is mostly an English thing, isn’t it?

Nope. Europe is 50/50. Some use ā€œ,ā€ for digit grouping, some use ā€œ.ā€

My country, for example, uses both.

50/50 is still a coin flip to make such an assumption correct.

I’ve seen more threads on the forum of people complaining about decimals and would like to wait with assumptions until the OP clarifies what their problem is.

Also it seems to be less than 50/50, it’s more of a 25/25/25/25 between four main styles of which only one uses commas for thousands separators:

Period is obviously the superior decimal separator, and I can prove it:

When you’re having a conversation with someone, especially a heated conversation, and you say ā€œit happens 99.5 percent of the timeā€ you can emphasize how correct you are by thrusting your index finger thus:

ā€œā€¦ninety-nine POINT :backhand_index_pointing_right: five percent of the time, pal!ā€

Pfft. Just try that with a comma.

I do hope that the OP will come back to this thread soon to clarify the actual problem…if it is input or representation.

However there is an old eveuni article about it that confirms what you all report…it has to be adapted to windows 10/11:

That’s how I understood it as well. He meant thousands separator commas.

2,600,000,000.37

Instead of this: 2600000000.37

And yes, that is lacking in the game. But I don’t use an EVE calculator personally. I use a pocket calculator. These computer calculators are inconvenient and limited whichever one you use.

As a mathematician/data-scientist, this is one of the few cases where I’d say the US gets it right.

US should switch to SI units
EU should switch to the decimal point (as should the rest of the world)

Listing a bunch of values, a, b, c, where the values themselves use decimal commas is just absolute horror… and anyone who codes in python/R/language-of-choice uses the decimal point.

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The US is using commas for thousands though, if I see the list above that I got from wikipedia, which again makes listing a bunch of values separated by commas a pain.

Personally I like the version with space as thousands separator if I use one at all. It’s the least ambiguous.

My own country does 123.456,78, 134,3
US does 123,456.78, 134.3
My preference: 123 456.78, 134.3

Too many people use either commas or dots for decimals that using the other for thousands is needlessly ambiguous.

I agree with that. It’s the main reason I stopped using the decimal commas we were taught at school.

I use a US system, even though I am from EU.

Like yourself, I was taught decimal commas at school, but I’ve stopped using them. They are just nonsensical. I use decimal point everywhere, even in countries that don’t use it.