The EVE Online Ecosystem Outlook

Just going to point out that if your enjoyment of a game is trying to make others stop playing it, you have some psychological issues obviously. Then i’d block you. Simple enough.

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Then why are you trying to make it out to be a bad thing that we don’t care if the guys who openly said they want to drive us out of the game are having fun, we just want to kick their asses and make them go the hell away? And keep in mind, ‘go the hell away’ doesn’t mean ‘leave EVE’. It means ‘go somewhere else in EVE’.

Edit to add: and let me be clear here—they didn’t all say that. They don’t all believe that. Take Dunk Dinkle, for example. Dunk’s never said that, and I believe him when he says he’s in this war to give his guys things to do, and he wants everyone to have fun. Shame of it is, he’s on the side that did say that. And I want those assholes to lose.

Which means Dunk’s gotta lose, and because Vily and Piggles have made it clear they’re gonna use every one of their allies to absorb absolutely as much of the losses and expenses of this war as they can, in order to kick their asses and make them go the hell away, we gotta kick Dunk’s. I like Dunk. I wish Dunk was on the right side of this. I hope he’ll be on the right side of the next one, too. But for now? I’m gonna do my level best to kick his butt, and I’m not gonna care about ‘fair’ to do it.

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Because you’re leaving unsaid that you feel the same way. Entitled Vets don’t care how many new players quit, as long as their stockpiles are safe and they can keep bragging about how big their “fleet” is XD In fact it’s better for you if new players don’t stay, players who leave often give up their accounts to nullbloc multiboxers through the character bazaar. More n00bs leaving means more accounts for you people to input broadcast control.

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What have new players got to do with any of this?

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I’m leaving it unsaid because it’s not true. I don’t feel the same way. I don’t want to see people driven out of this game. Holy hell, if people get driven out of the game, who the hell will we fight?

This is patently not true. Do you know what bittervets absolutely love the most in this game? NEWBIES. We love 'em. We can’t get enough of 'em. In Goonswarm, if we find out there’s a newbie in the fleet, we shower that cute li’l bastard in ISK. You know why? BECAUSE THEY’RE BEAUTIFUL.

They are. They are new and fresh and excited and wonderful and they make us remember what it was like to feel that rush of ‘Oh my god, that’s a titan’ for the first time. They let us feel young again, just for a little while. And I don’t know where you get your nonsense about ‘players who leave often give up their accounts to nullbloc multiboxers’ nonsense, but… no.

First off, selling accounts through the character bazaar isn’t even legal. It’ll get you banned. And why would we need their accounts, when we can make our own and optimize the skill training for exactly what we need? What you’re proposing would be easy to track, easy to catch, bannable, and an inefficient waste of our time, effort, and resources.

AND WHAT THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING THEM WITH? ISK? Why would they want ISK if they’re quitting? You think anyone is paying actual real-world money for a newbie account? Why? It’s maybe 3 months of skill training. We could just use like 2 injectors to get that onto a brand new, totally legal account of our own. And we’d still need to pay for the account if it’s gonna stay Omega, so why the hell would we even want someone else’s?

Edit to add: Why on Earth would we even want to make newbies leave? The game needs new players. All games do, especially older ones. Without them, you just ossify. Holy hell, I must’ve written half a dozen articles on INN in the last 3 years alone about improving the game for new players and finding new ways to improve retention.

What the hell are you smoking?

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lol, because botters and multiboxers know nothing about avoiding CCP’s attention XD ever heard of a VPN? They’re the primary reason CCP is losing the fight against Russian and Chinese RMT bot gangs. Well, that and laziness, they could easily file injunctions against RMT sites under international copyright law, they just choose not to, allowing scams to run rampant, not sure why, except for the fact that they dislike their own players.

I’ve lost track of the number of players i’ve had complaining that they went inactive for a period and got hacked, having their account drained of all resources and left a shriveled husk.

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If people do get this in EVE, is the game in… dire straits?

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i stopped playing in late sept have not missed the bugs that got unleashed on the live servers since that ya i will like many others just take a break while ccp does what they seem to be very good at break stuff for no reason

have better things to do then pray an ice belt will maybe space in 20 jumps of me let alone mine veldspar as for trig ores oh you can refine it better still likely can’t compress the crap so same as goo ore

What bugs, btw? The only “bug” that I know of since September would probably be the unintended Standings boost for Trigs+EDENCOM by completing unrelated Drone sites (which was quickly declared an exploit by CCP). I haven’t seen any “bugs” since though. Mind pointing out a few of them?

I would buy all the colors. Skins are, with the exception of the aurora one, kind of crappy.

It means that the play to have fun crowed in eve has diminished and the play to win crowed has taken over and all honor and sense or challenge has slipped out the back door.

High sec guys dream of never getting shot, faction warfare guys dream of having a good equal number fight, null guys dream of out blobbing and smashing everyone’s face in so bad they loose their home.

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Yep, too many people in EvE care about wealths and profits (IG and IRL), instead of just strive to have fun.

We need to get way down with efficiency and professionalism. Axe ESI, forbid people making any kind of IRL money with EvE content.

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The reason why CCP is taking a big dump on everyone in EVE right now.

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Theyll have to try a lot harder.

CCPs offers have been utter garbage this holiday season.

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Tbh dude this high sec guy can’t comprenhend null sec/war dynamics you’re just wasting your breath at this point.

XDD nice

Hmm let me try to remember …

i had seen zinitra undock from a starter system

we had grit glitched again and again in a 20 man fight …

i had seen co bowhead pilot while sitting in the bowhead at the same time-fighting in space with

another ship same pilot tanem different ships and fits had been fighting…

We had totally irrevelant issues to rep logi each other… we got ridiculous concord heads ups …

dozen of over 10 years PVP vets try to figure out the reason dock undock login logout try again… works… 5 min later doesn’t work. ( reason : unknown ) we sort that seem like . 10 min later grid glitch… ■■■■

i had lost my pods on gate pipes… i drop my implants totally … i had seen people in local which actually doesnt exists… i have seen anyone in local while they were there…

pilots i know some of very highly skilled manual kiters had breake from their fight style .

i had seen that a guy we had been engagaging couldnt lock up any of us… untill he got wrecked… we had been in the same comms and we had been watching and testing and poking …
2 of mutual wars ended out of player intervention… with unknows reasons … within 4 different corporations…

If you would like to be Clapper of CCP at least try to play the game .Makes you look bit more reliable

When we experiencing those issues we wait patiently , we havent quit or such because we know CCP doing their best to sort those …And they did it … But that doesnt mean we dont experience these things and having hard times … and that doesnt mean you have right to step on someone and behave like issues doesnt existst even CCP accept maturely and work on solutions, the way it has to be