Do you think applying your morals to the player base is a problem?
I’m not. CCP allows multiboxing and I’m fine with it. In mot the one complaining and saying its unfair to adhere to the rules.
That’s your side that’s doing that. The player that was multiboxing wasn’t breaking a single rule yet somehow its unfair? If its unfair that he was Multiboxing, then that’s stating that the other player is choosing not to play fairly, and if he isnchoosing not to play fairly, then he must be a person who intentionally tries to get one over on, or cheat other players. Kind of like that asshole cousin we all have who cheats at monopoly or tries to constantly manipulate rules in games to win. And if that player is playing unfairly by multiboxing, and you are playing fairly by not, then that’s basically a judgement on that players character.
How do you not see that that is applying your morals to thw game?
The multiboxer wasn’t cheatng, no matter what your opinion of multiboxing is. The player was playing within the rules that CCP created and was therefore being fair.
Now if someone wants to say they dont like multiboxing because of reasons blah blah blah then fine. But that doesnt mean its unfair.
I swear to Bob, Eve has the best player base and the worst player base all mashed together.
My god… how has this thread managed to stay active for so long?
OP doesn’t like multiboxers. Says it’s unfair.
Most of Eve answers “meh, what does fair have to do with Eve?”
OP seems to believe that had he been fighting 3 players instead of one, all at the same time rather than trickling in, the fight would have been different - and he was right. He’d have been dead before he killed the first VNI.
This boils down to “asymmetric fights aren’t fair”.
No, they aren’t. And they aren’t meant to be. The counter is to be the one fighting asymmetric. Be the dude with more pilots at the ready… either your own, or friends, it doesn’t matter.
Eve isn’t fair. Eve players play to win at any cost. Honour never even existed in this game, save for a very select few people.
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You don’t manually pilot?
Bad pilot is bad.
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I didnt know I had a side. lol
I realize too late that I worded that last post poorly. The more articulate version of that post would have read “Do you think it is a problem if someone applys thier particular morals to the playerbase”
I think you would answer in the affirmative given the…nature…of your reply so I will just provide the response already cued up:
If “fair” is subjective, which is YOUR claim, then there is no objective truth value to the claim that “X is Fair/Unfair”. Given that there is no objective (meaning universal/mind-independent) definition then general criticism of one definition transfers equally to the other (with some special features which are not relevant right now).
So, if you think that the person who says “X is unfair” is problematically forcing his/her morals onto others, then you must also think the person who sais “X is fair” is also problematically forcing his/her morals onto others.
If you are complaining that the op is forcing his values onto you by saying multiboxxing isnt fair, then he can equally complain that you are forcing YOUR values onto him by saying that it is.
Nor can you ever make an argument that can change the mind of the op. His definition of fairness, which multiboxxing violates, is just as valid as your own. Similarly, he can never convince you of anything for the same reason. Defining things subjectively makes one a brick wall.
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Fair enough, except I’m not the one voluntarily putting myself in an environment with a defined set of rules and then saying it’s unfair.
If he really feels its unfair, then he shouldnt let the door hit him where the good lord split him. Have a set of balls and put put the money where the mouth is.
Sounds like shitty FCing. Were people dying and then warping back into the fight 1 or 2 at a time and dying again? Was there even a doctrine?
I really don’t like multiboxing, I think it’s kind of “cheap”, I think if you want a wingman, you have to risk that fact that he could turn on you at anytime. That being said, the following is completely true:
I know Trixie said that, but “fair” isn’t really “subjective” as most systems that address fairness, are not based on our moods and can be measured objectively. However there are different schools of thought as to what makes a “fair” system. Some, like Trixie, view equal opportunity as fair, others view equal outcome as fair.
It’s like when I had to split a piece of cake or something with my sister, some people would think that fair would be if my mum cut the piece, weighted out the sides and we each got exactly equal. My mum’s system, which I considered fair, was one of us would get to cut, and the other got the first pick. This lead to a host of complex cuts and cutting schemes to try to make the bigger side look smaller than the smaller side, but it was “fair” in its own way which was very different for “we both get exactly the same.”
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I use alts. Trust me, that doesnt stop them turning on you.
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Sorry, Ramona, I was assuming someone without your special condition. 
P.S. I’m still waiting for a forums thread that is basically nothing but you and your alts arguing against each-other. (Maybe I shouldn’t have given her that idea.)
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I generally try not to interact with them.
You can choose your alt-friends but not your alt-family, unfortunately.
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Personally, and back on the subject of multiboxing, I use different accounts for different things, but I’d never have them interact like a fleet or something. And, no, my alts don’t like me either, they think I’m a bitch, but they’re stuck with me.
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Lol one of your “family” is an antifreeze swilling hillbilly 
Every time you let him out I think of this.
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Most of mine toil in my reprocessing plants and sweat-shop like “research institutes”.
ftfy
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At least you all have alts to talk to.
I just talk to myself.
It only gets weird when I reply.
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Don’t make fun of hillbilly family, it’s the only family that can be blood relativities and in-laws.
You never trust your own alts, they’re just enemies that haven’t stabbed you in the face yet.
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You’ve never been to Norfolk in the UK have you?
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“Evil of multiboxing”
Translated to “I was at a disadvantage and want to blame something.”
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Multiboxing is pay to win.
You are paying for a material advantage in the game. This isnt 3 separate people paying for their own individual accounts, it’s one guy coughing up cash for a measurable benefit.
That’s how it is functionally different, they didn’t ban ISBoxer for no reason, because it automated an already dangerously overpowered function of single players.
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