The only reason people say the game was ‘broken’ is because CCP told them it was broken. The only thiing that was actually broken was CCPs ability to make money off the game.
Think of it like this; what was happening in game that is not happening now say two years ago? Capital fights were common, roaming gangs relevant. Supercap kills were weekly, there was a LOT more activity in the whole game then there is now. Ganking, war decs, mining industry, across EVERY field of this sandbox game there was more happening. The game was NOT broken.
Then comes CCP… “The game is broken, we need scarcity/changes/nerfs/bulls#it etc” What happens? ALL of the above decrease or stop all together. People stop logging in, people quit all together, activity dries up, there’s a failure cascade of players for whom content has dried up. PVP much? Where are the targets? Tried whaling? Where are the targets? Tried a 1.5hr small gang roam in low sec? Where are the targets?
The game was NOT BROKEN, but it F is now! Thanks CCP. How many players are no longer logging in? How many logged out for the last time?
CCP broke it, now fix it before the lights go out for the last time.
lol, how did CCP steal 1000 Plex from you?? Did you input your card details, and hit buy? If so, then you bought plex… if you had it in a ship, and not in a vault and you got blown up, that is not CCP’s fault.
If you feel so morally outraged there’s a very simple solution: Don’t click that little button that says “Claim” or just quit… If 235m isk is so morally abhorrent to you you can just unsub. Just give me your stuff on the way out, kay?
You just want to “grrr CCP! They are doing the bad thing”
Its a thematically appropriate log-in campaign. Go buy a ship with the isk, try and grab a key, and try and steal from the reserve bank.
Hmmm, can you not read?
Or does negative feedback not count.
Simply the fact this thread has more posts about this “free isk” than it does relating to its actual topic, tells a story if you’re not to arrogant to see it.
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Everytime you post it reminds me politicians can never be trusted.
Ahh there it is the unbridled arrogance of a self serving politician.
Of course the people you speak to ingame are far more relevant than ANYONE who posts on the forum.
I wonder if “your friends” said it was a bad idea what you’d say then.
CSM, here to represent everyone, unless you post on the forums and or my ingame friends disagree with you.
They actually are, because they are actively playing the game, which is more than I can say for a lot of folks here on the forums. And I didn’t say “my friends” I said “the players I talk to.” I talk to a lot of people, including a ton that I don’t know at all.
NO, you don’t. You clearly stated “people you talk to”.
Then went on to say, a lot of folks on the forums Don’t actively play the game so aren’t worth listening to.
You and your views certainly don’t represent me, so again NO you don’t represent “everybody”.
To represent “everybody” you need to have an open mind, see others points of view. Something you have clearly displayed here, you don’t possess.
At best you “represent” (I don’t want to be crude) the sheep that would follow the brown dog even if it was leading them to the dingo’s.
I guess all the people complaining about capital proliferation and structure spam was just my imagination then. And even though people had yet to start complaining about falling mining incomes, I guarantee you that they would have as mining incomes continued to fall. Only then, they’d be faulting CCP for not acting earlier before the problem got so bad. And not for nothing, but some players accurately assessed just how OP the Rorqual was, and what kind of effect it would have on mineral supply.
So, pretending that everything was great just because you benefited in the age of abundance is as selfish and short-sighted as denying climate change just because you benefit from maintaining the status quo.
Second, let’s distinguish between CCP’s intentions to make ship loss more meaningful, and their attempts to deal with unsustainable economic activity. Naturally, a lot of their efforts have managed to achieve both those ends, but that doesn’t mean that it’s impossible to bring (selected) ship costs down without completely undoing all efforts to address unsustainable economic activity, and rolling the game back to an earlier, unhealthy state.
Personally, I’m not sold on the idea that scarcity breeds war. The idea might have merit at the organizational level, but it makes individual players risk adverse, and in many cases, it does indeed make players log off. Of course, it’s mostly the low-effort, whiny, evolutionary hold outs that log off, but those types of players still give money to CCP, help Eve achieve a social critical mass, and they make good puppy chow for the wolves. Moreover, the costs of some ships do indeed seem straight up unbalanced.
So, we actually seem to see eye to eye on this. I think that the costs of some ships should indeed come down. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see a return to capital ships being considered disposable, but I also feel like CCP might have over corrected. So, I’m thinking there might be a happy medium here. However, I was also waiting for scarcity to end, and for the wider player base to adapt, in order to see where prices ultimately settled.
What I can say, however, is that I don’t particularly appreciate people like you arguing for positions I hold because you undermine my arguments. All the people asking to roll the game back to unhealthy state, and calling for employees to be fired, not only fail to make persuasive arguments, but actually sabotage the otherwise persuasive arguments of others.
And, once again, I strongly, strongly advise you take my earlier advice, and start asking yourself how you might use changes to your advantage. It will help you to survive and thrive in a game that is being actively developed, and help you have a lot more fun as well. Hopefully, you’re not to busy being angry to listen.
CCP has in fact, crossed such a line. Why in all of EVE history has it not universally dolled out Isk before if it is such a good idea?
How is this printing isk printing better than “rewarding” players with enough skill-points to fly their dream fancy?
I’m pleased to announce that I will be highlighting the both sublime and the ridiculous until the end because I’m not integrity impaired in the way 90% of Iceland has become.
I assure you my hard won assets are in trust to people who will appreciate them when / if the time comes.
I don’t understand why so many people are pissy about a couple hundred million from a log on event. Are you that scared of people buying a couple extra ships here and there?
To attack a csm for his opinion, when his opinion includes feedback from people that actually play is just dumb.
I honestly think ccp needs to start banning people from the forums that don’t have an active subscription. If you aren’t invested in the game, and disrupt every thread you can, you don’t deserve a voice to the elected csm and certainly not to ccp.
I’m under no illusions that my personal objections will effect change, yet they will be noted.
Scared is too strong a word. My concern is along the lines of; “give a man a fish…”
That is heinous. The EVE players are not resilient, they simply don’t have another choice. If there was another similar space scifi MMO available that is being developed better and not as meme-y as EVE, EVE would have been dead years ago. CCP simply banks on the luxury that they don’t have competition. Saying that EVE players are resilient is grossly misrepresenting the reality.
Of course such a dumb idea can only come from you. The most oblivious dimstop of them all. Tell me one reason why people should not be outraged by CCP handing out ISK for free when they kept telling people over and over that there is too much ISK in the economy and that they have to reduce the faucets?
And tell me why people should not be mad about this as it is just another salami tactics step closer to selling actual things like ships. It started with SP that CCP said would never come from thin air and only from player training them. Months later they started selling SP. CCP also said that they would sell manufactured items. Months later they start with frigs, then destroyers, then ammo.
Only someone like you could possibly lay blame on the players for being annoyed by these steps to ruining the game further and further. Lucky for you, you are in perfect company over there with these developers. Mark my words.
It’s not like everyone gets the isk. Only omega players. Throwing an isk bone once in 18 years should not be an arguable offense.
Most likely, our eve stimulus will be spent within an hour of getting it. Just like rl stimulus was for most low income people.
It’s honestly to the point that ccp can’t do anything that won’t immediately piss off the non-playing forum personalities.
The game was actually broken (and still is). But it is entirely CCP’s fault and the heinous part is that CCP blames the players for breaking the game and with Scarcity they are making players suffer through some kind of recovery plan that CCP portraits between the lines as punishment for the players. CCP kept insisting that it’s all the players’ fault that the economy has gone bonkers and insists on ignoring the facts that they introduced mechanics and changed ships in ways that would inevitably break everything for no good reason but one: their own greed. The most hilarious thing about this all is that players kept telling CCP that they are committing one huge mistake after the other but CCP gleefully ignored them and now lies to players that no one could foresee the outcomes of certain developments – when in fact only they could not but everyone else with 1 braincell knew exactly what would happen, and exactly that did happen.
But to this day CCP has not apologized for their mistakes, nor for lying to players nor for blaming players for their mistakes.
Why?
If they enjoy the game and want to play, do so with the available technology? I’m not a Linux user, so I don’t understand their position. It just seems like they face problems with most games.
I’ve seen dozens of threads with someone upset that eve doesn’t have a Linux native client.
