CODE has never back-tracked on anything they said.
AG has.
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CODE. love them or hate them have massively changed highsec and the way people play there. It’s not an exageration to say CODE. is one of the most successful and famous alliances/groups in the game.
Honestly, its a bit embarrassing to say antigankers are anywhere close to being as relevant as CODE. They’re just a bunch of plebs who follow highsecs top alpha dogs around, feebly trying to stop ganks, but failing nonstop
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Oh I agree and my point wasn’t to equate the two entities or their influence on HS. There are only a few names that are known by most players in EVE and James 315 is one of them.
My point was strictly that if you put-up CODE’s goal and AG’s goal, then look at their respective outcomes, both are failures to be honest. If CODE was a success, they would have put themselves out of business a long time ago but the opposite is true with more kills by agents being registered now than at anytime before. AG’s goal to stop gankers is, well, anemic to say the least; also a failure.
When looked at objectively, destroying ships is the means to an ends that neither side has come close to achieving.
Nobody cares about you.
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Thats not true, CODE. is easily one of the most successful entities in the game by almost any metric. It’s a video game, new players will come and go. There isnt a guide for CODE. as soon as you start the game and you can never make the entire populace always obey the law. It’s a continuing and never ending endeavor.
Looking at it objectively CODE. is ranked 13 on isk destroyed, all the ranks surrounding us are giant nullblocs with tens of thousands more members. Our fame, effectiveness and change on the game is undeniable.
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Ok I’ll stop there as you are just fixating on ships exploding. Back you your regularly scheduled program.
Thanks for caring enough to let me know. 
Lmao
What a brainlet
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Bounty Paid: 8.4M
what you did is try to declare your alt the ‘new savior of highsec’ then spam our channels with crap for 2 days until you got banned, and podded a few random guys that arent even gankers. Idiot.
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I have not lost at anything, show me a kill by a CODE guy on any of my characters, you can’t, simple as that.
You are the one who needs to calm down, exhibit A:
The OP is talking about his bounty competition, while you were talking about AG as a whole, which is why I told you that you were wrong, there is a difference but you are too up yourself to see it.
Did you lose some loot recently to be so butt hurt? Calm down ganker. 
But isn’t that the definition of Eve ??
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Yes, it is but the point wasn’t about what defines Eve but rather what defines CODE and the AG’ers; the ends if you will, to wit I proposed that neither side was doing a very good job of achieving it.
CODE.'s end result is teaching a lesson and having fun doing it.
I dunno what the other lot’s is.
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Loot denial for fun and to teach a lesson. Which can result in ships being blown up and fun had by all. I don’t know how you can miss this from what I have said multiple times 
I suppose I get the fun, I dont really see the lesson, sorry.
Dont suppose it needs to be more than fun so vOv
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The lesson is, you can’t gank easily in popular areas with only 2 chars/people. 
A lot of aspiring gankers give up after their first hauler loss. Some move elsewhere in the pipe, some just log/dock when I’m entering local nowadays. Some get a loot bunny or join a bigger group.
But indeed the lesson is counter-productive as it reduces the number of targets for killing haulers, stealing their loot. Every hauler ganker giving up on that is a loss. But people are always told ganking is too easy and doesn’t need a brain.
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Fair dos. I wasnt sure if you were in the AG group or not.
At least one ganker insulted me in local, that I‘m a filthy AG because he can’t gank while I‘m sitting on the gate as he is too afraid of losing the loot. So it looks like I help the AG course even without stopping ganks. 
So fun comes from low effort (stalking gankers can be done semi-AFK), and nice rewards (salt, kills, loot, chats in Russian with google translate, forum posts, …)
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Well thats refreshing.
Should be a self sustaining ecosystem.