some use ecm bursting ships to get a hit on all of them.. others use small fast lockign ships to kill em. etc etc, thats cool n all. end of the day what ever works best for you go hard,
imho the most effective ship to get pvp hits on as many of the fleet as possible is the sky breaker,
I have seen skybreakers on hs ganker kill mails and its obvious what they do.. they lock onto one target and just hound on that ship till it pops. 10 hots maybe slightly more.
the best way is attack the main tackler this will normally be a maller/caracal/ other cruiser based ship. as the rest of the fleet warps in and all become legit targets you should spread out your hits..
lock up 5 of the. take one shot and move to the next target, each time it will hit the nearest legit targets. repeat till all 5 have had the same thing or the fleet dies to concord. and yes you can actually get a hit on each and every one of them..
now the down side.. you will hit near by navy ships and they will eventually try to kill you. do not worry they dont scramble you just need to dock up or change systems to avoid them.
last but not least is the âneutral:â ship near the fleet that has a jet can next to them.. as you start shooting they will run the risk and take the contents of the can and become a legit target then they target you and shoot your lil itsy bitsy skybreaker till it pops.
some ganker corps are becoming increasingly sneaky fookers.
end of the day your guys say you dont mind but you sure asf go out of your way to avoid the hits, there is no difference between using concord to help get kill mails vs in a 200 man fleet and whorting off those mails.
So what? You donât kill those either with a Skybreaker. And the gankers absolutely donât care for killboard losses, they care for tears and profit.
Its already a calculated loss, so it ending up on zkill or not does not matter. Even before a single shot has even been fired, its already been established:
How much EHP the target has
How much DPS will be need to kill the target
What the potential rewards will be
What the cost overhead for the required ganking ships will be
If the gank will be profitable or not
You shooting them with a Skybreaker wont change any of that, since you are not changing the outcome in any meangiful way.
Youâre getting a âkillâ off something that is going to be killed anywayâŚguaranteed. It thus makes no difference whether you do 1000 hit points of damage or just 1âŚyou still get the âkillâ. That is probably the laziest way of getting âkillsâ.
When I suspect hunt at Jita, I have absolutely no guarantee that anyone else will fire on the suspect. Thereâs no guarantee of a kill. In fact others usually join in after I have started firingâŚas everyoneâs waiting for someone with good alpha, which I have, to do most of the damage. I can end up with a situation where yet another person whoring off kills gets 1% of the damage and the âfinal shotââŚwhilst I have done 99%. That also robs Safety of the kill.
So noâŚI am not too enamoured of people whoring off kills for a living. Its a different matter if a whole bunch of people fire togetherâŚthats fine. But whoring off Concord, or people who wait for tank to drop to 1% and then fireâŚkinda sucks.
also some of you claim these high sec gankers dont care about pvp losses.. yet groups like L.E.G.I.O.N are doing their upmost top high pvp losses be it no post from api to kill boards or using smart bombing ships to kill as many destroyers when at low ho to take the kill mail..
aint that right prime admiral ?? mr i dont care about ship losses.. actions speak louder than words son..
They use smartbombs to get the pod of their target too, not to whore on their own destroyers⌠itâs for farming tears.
And they donât API to not give instant free intel on their activities, so only kills/losses that their victims post appear on zkill. Many smart players are doing that, because you donât have any obligation to feed a third party website with informations about what you do in the game. Especially if that information can be used to thwart your plans or used against you otherwise.
Sounds pretty pointless to me to get a few hits in on ships that are already doomed to be destroyed by CONCORD.
If your goal is to turn PvE losses into PvP losses by being involved with CONCORD kills, why not bring a ship that has the potential to change the outcome of the situation?
Whoring on kills with a little damage against all attackers probably wonât stop a gank unless you deal enough damage for attackers to be killed before CONCORD does their job, which I doubt your Skybreaker is capable of doing.
With no experience in these engagements I would guess that an ECM burst (which you think is ineffective) has a bigger success chance, not by âwhoring on killsâ, but by making a multibox ganker spend precious seconds retargeting the target and reactivating their guns on all the affected accounts, potentially missing enough dps that the victim survives. And whoring on kills (like your Skybreaker strategy) also happens but is just a secondary effect.
After all, are you playing to boost your killboard numbers only and have zero impact on the game, or are you trying to impact the ganks?
Your choice, but Iâd personally try to have some impact on the game, not just play for zkillboard stats against ships that would have died anyway.
