Two features in buying and selling MUST have

[Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI]

@Mkikaden_Tiragen

everyone is now aware that you are utterly incapable of deploying logic and valid rhetoric in support of your argument.

citation please !!

[Mkikaden_Tiragen]

@Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI

@Mkikaden_Tiragen

everyone is now aware that you are utterly incapable of deploying logic and valid rhetoric in support of your argument.

citation please !!

False Equivalence

https://effectiviology.com/false-equivalence/

Your car insurance scenario in no way is comparable to fake money in a market transaction in a video game.

[Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI]

keep trying

[Brun_Warbear]

@Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI

again wrong logic keep trying

So now you’re just gonna go full schoolyard neener neener as your support for your “valid” argument?

Wow you collapsed into an embarrassing mess far quicker than the average troll around here.

[Mkikaden_Tiragen]

I’m not sure what you think I am ‘trying’ other than to encourage you to use valid arguments to represent your proposal.

Nobody will take you seriously using fallacious arguments.

Literally, I am trying to help you here. You are failing utterly to present your argument for this change as worthwhile. You need to demonstrate how this would benefit players for anyone to support this, let alone CCP begin to consider implementing it.

If all you want to do is shout into the void of the internet, though, keep on keeping on.

[Daichi_Yamato]

@Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI

if the plex sell price is for example between 2.5(M) and 3(M) isk
and you place a buy order for 300(k) is that a fare price to place a buy order

The game shouldn’t dictate what prices are fair or not fair. It’s a free market. There is no ‘fair price’.

@Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI

so if i am in rush and not pay attention then for these reasons we do not deserve an extra protection ?

No you do not deserve extra protection.

@Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI

from above Q&A i think it is clearly states what i am pointing to

That you want trade insurance?

[Cade_Windstalker]

I’m pretty sure there’s already a warning for very large differences from the average price. Check if you have it disabled.

The color thing isn’t a terrible idea, given that the trade UI already uses colors for various other things. Though instead of a set limit I’d just go with significant digits and/or percentages away from the regional average price. The problem at that point is queries to the database, but that’s probably solvable since the UI likely already has that value cached.

[Celine_Sophia_Maricadie]

@Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI

so if i am in rush and not pay attention then for these reasons we do not deserve an extra protection ?

No, you do not. You were in a rush. The extra protection is up to you, to pay attention and not be in a rush.

@Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI

Q1: if u drive a car would you drive it with insurance or with out ?
if A: yes
Q2: why ?
A: i may by mistake crash my/and other cars
Q3: does insurance will stop you from crashing your car ?
A: No , but it will reduce my losses

Car insurance has sweet frak all to do with EVE Online and you being in a rush to sell item on an in-game market. This is what we call a straw argument. If you’re wanting some sort of in-game insurance to protect your butt when selling stuff, SLOW DOWN AND PAY ATTENTION. This right here solves your “problem” completely. And it’s 100% in your hands and capability to make it work.

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

I’ve made a few mistakes with market or what not. You know whose fault it was? Mine. Do I want CCP to change something because I rushed and put the wrong number in? No it was my fault.
I got over it, made the ISK back, and learned my lesson to slow down when inputing numbers for marketing.

CCP isn’t going to coddle you just because you ■■■■■■ up. Enough people ask CCP to coddle them, we don’t need anyone else begging for changes to be made that don’t need to be made

[Felix_Isimazu]

OP, this isn’t even the result of someone else intentionally making your day shittier like scammers or pirates or gankers. You didn’t pay attention and screwed up. This is not CCP’s problem. This is nobody’s problem but yours.

You’re blaming CCP because you didn’t pay attention, I…wtf man.

@Cade_Windstalker

I’m pretty sure there’s already a warning for very large differences from the average price. Check if you have it disabled.

I’m (fairly) sure you can’t even disable this warning, I think it’s one of the few pop-ups that isn’t disable-able. I admit that it has saved my wallet more than once.

[Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI]

thanks for your comment. i added an image to original post ,please have a look @
thanks

[Scoots_Choco]

@Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI

from the image it is clearly that the market average price have something wrong with it
this item is sold between 15,000 isk and 24,000 isk +/- 5-10% not more

lmao, there’s so much wrong here, and it’s all because OP is bad

First off, the item is sold “between 15k and 24k” in TRADING HUBS, for example in…

Jita:

Amarr:

You’re in a random nowhere system named Palas, in a random structure.

The “market average price” isn’t “wrong”. That’s the actual “average” price for a dead region with no actual trade. The price is set so low because the average sales of that item in the region are sold to cheap buy orders of 1isk from desperate sellers who just want to get rid of it.

Second, you’re selling that item TO A PLAYER BUY ORDER. No one is “scamming” you here, kid. You should know that EVE Online’s marketplace is run (almost) entirely by players. Someone says, “I want to buy Fuel Blocks for 24.97 isk”, sets up the buy order, and then leaves it for desperate morons like you to come by and sell it to them.

Finally,
If you want trade hub prices, go to a trade hub.
It’s not the game’s fault you decided to build 14,000 units of a fuel block in a region that has almost no trade, and then felt entitled to trade hub prices.

[Daichi_Yamato]

Scoots is right. That price is the average for that region. The reason it’s so low is that the buyers are factoring in the inconvenience of having to come pick it up. There is nothing ‘wrong’ with it.

You can make more money by moving it to where prices are better. But it depends how much you value your time.

Welcome to the real economy.

[Cade_Windstalker]

The other posters are correct, if somewhat uncivil about it. Average prices are calculated for your local area, not for the game as a whole.

If you’re going to sell outside of a trade hub then you’ll want to have some reason for doing so. Either because there’s local demand and you can charge more or move more product in a short time, or for some other more esoteric reason.

In any case the UI indicates most of the things you’re having issues with here, and the lack of a warning and the high percentage shown are working as intended.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

@Cade_Windstalker

if someone uncivil about it.

Welcome to the forums! (I think he means “somewhat”)

But they are correct.

[Cade_Windstalker]

Woops, small auto-carrot error there.

And yeah, I know, but that does’t mean I can’t call out people’s bad behavior for what it is.