@Rama-Tut I am certain I read somewhere, that team FC UK is not even working on EVE. Team FC UK is currently working on other projects to my understanding. I kind of like they have team FC UK but it still changes nothing about “the law”. I remember back in 1996, the US Congress passed a law called the Communications Decency Act (CDA) for Internet censorship attached to the Telecommunications Act. In protest, many webpages went black and was known as the Great Web Blackout.
Can guess what happened? I mean, without Googling it? Well nothing happened. No one got arrested and the law remained in affect. The law was so ridiculous. You would need to hire every person online to spy on every person online. The law was meaningless, has no teeth, and a waste of ink. A few months went by and the Third Circuit Court of Appeals blocked portion of the CDA, saying it would infringe upon free speech.
It was meant to control pornography on the internet, but failed to define what that actually means, or how it would be controlled, or monitored. In fact, I am certain there is more online today – 30 years later – than there was back then. The UK cannot enforce such a law, without law enforcement and monitoring in place.
Instead of making laws, why don’t we just tell the public, they need to be aware of their children. Knowing your child is the first step to being a good parent. Be open and honest, about why they are allowed to do one thing and not another, is the next step. Show your concern for their safety, but trust their judgement, because you raised them. I hope you raised them, and didn’t leave them sit in front of a cellphone or PC all their life.
But the UK is actually using these laws to go after websites. If you host outside the UK or the EU (who will rush to punish you at the UK’s request) you can pretty much just tell them to go pound sand. But if you are unfortunate enough to live in these totalitarian hellscapes, it isn’t just a case of incompetent politicians writing moronic and unenforceable laws, it’s backed up by law enforcement agencies that will eagerly enforce them to their fullest extent because going after a bunch of nerds hosting a video game server is ever so much easier and safer than tackling literal conspiracies to abuse children or going after knife crime.
FC would know the CEOs age and they would be under a legal obligation (in the UK) to make sure an adult cannot contact them in-game.
The parents are the kicker here, as once there are rules and regulations in-place it gives them someone to complain to if they find unsolicited messages from an adult on their kid’s machine/in-game.
Not sure either, just thought it was interesting that there is a UK company.
Everyone’s going to have the same issue tho, right? I’ve been playing Arc Raiders a bit recently and that’s just a bunch of kids running around telling you they’re going the f*** you up.
Actually, won’t everything be a lot calmer without kids?!?!
I still don’t get it what you are after with wardecs and the need for talk. I declare war to destroy stuff and shoot people. I don’t declare war to chat.
In fact i block all chat requests automatically. I don’t talk to people, i just shoot their stuff.
Chatting with unknown people ingame is most annoying anyway. I keep to corp chat and people i know.
You might be right with the general problem and the legislation in the UK, but this wardec scenario is not the right one as a base.
FC needs to adress this globaly for the game and not for single scenarios. This will be interesting. Maybe underage persons in the UK will indeed lose access.
That was my point – kids can bypass age restriction systems. And it’s not even that difficult. If a 13-year-old wants to make an EVE account and lie himself to 19, he can. Not even Fenris will know his real age.
So in reality, a 13-year-old will be in the game, will converse with adult strangers, and it’s unlikely he will be found out.
Indeed, and then the problem comes for those of us who are old, who need to bypass the age restrictions too, most easily by handing over PII to some hopefully trusted third party.
Now I remember dumb australia laws about banning asian adult female body shapes… someone (old, perv and again used to visit little islands in caribean) considered them too sinful. Grrr amarrian roleplayers…
Well, soon we wil be ruled by a dumb IA monkey god, a bunch of Swatzenegger (shotting heavy machineguns) clones cannot be worse than this.
Maybe your politicians believe there is not enough children out there committing knife crimes and abusing adults? This law might do that job.
This is a very odd twist on my family history. Back prior to the American Revolution, the three Vernon brothers in England, traded guns for land here in the US ( English Colonies ). They settled here branded traitors to England. The one brother, I am a direct descendant of, settled down in Georgia on a cotton plantation. I am almost certain he had slaves, because of the cotton plantation in the deep south. Should you or anyone decide to run guns as a hobby or profession, always remember to make good on your deals.
I recall this in the news back then, there was like one pervert arrested. His lawyer got him off on the technical wording of the CDA. It read he downloaded the images to his PC, but since they never left the browser cache, they were not downloaded by his hand, but by visiting what he claimed to be an unknown webpage. He was obviously being watched and targeted for a reason, not just some random person of interest. I think the CDA still exists, but almost impossible to enforce. Like the old motorcycle helmet laws, who are you going to bust, if a pack of 50 bikes fly by breaking the law?
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As mentioned earlier (this is not a dig btw) I think the parents will be the updated challenge for FC.
Previously if someone complained about harassment of under 16s the GMs could say ‘That’s Eve, not our problem’ etc…
Now FC will be legally obliged to do something, otherwise there could be an Ofcom fine coming FCs way.
How this usually plays-out in the UK is the new law/regulations come into force & then Ofcom fine a company that’s not compliant to make an early example of them.
