Some of them even have automated docking while the crew lounges in their quarters. EVE kind of has that but the screen goes black so we can only imagine.
There are “kickout” stations (If i’m using proper term) where docking area ends meters away from place where your ship appears in space. Immediately pressing Ctrl+Space to stop you find yourself out of docking range already. I’m living in such a station currently and if I see anything suspicious I just warp to undock bookmark, and in these rare occasions where nobody is around and I need to dock back it takes half a minute to stop, start moving back, engage MWD and finally be able to dock. And, for some reason, pressing “dock” does not work, you need to manually move to docking range.
Depending of Your ship and ships of Your “friends” You might get alphaed before You can dock back.
I see a simple solution: find a better home.
The insta-undock bookmark you mention is a good way to safely live in a kick-out station, but if you want more safety there are plenty of other stations you can live in that don’t immediately kick you out of docking range upon undock.
Or place a structure so you can use the safety of tether to spot enemies! This has it’s own risks though, as unlike the safety of NPC stations the Upwell structures can be destroyed.
Why would a game accord with reality ? I mean…I’ve never seen a horse jump over a castle in real life, yet they can do in chess. And those dragons in Skyrim don’t look as though they could possibly really fly. Even in EVE…the notion that one can get to 1,000 times light speed using thrusters is physics nonsense…and where is the gravity ? Complaining about lack of windows because ‘real stations have windows’ is sort of widely missing the point.
Yes. However that is only true in nullsec. And only if the player does it purely AFK.
Outside of this situation, if the player isn’t afk or it is not a sov null. There is not much you can do against scouts whether they are cloaked or not.
In fact you don’t even need a cloak to be able to permanently scout lowsec or nullsec system. Just look at what Uedama scout is doing. 24/7 re-undocking anytime he is killed and warping to new safespot. Whether he has some software for this or multiple players controls that alt via remote desktop, it is pointless to kill him.
It is already easy enough to scout a highsec or lowsec gate/station. If you have a cloak you can do it whole day with perfect safety. As such your argument falls short and looking out of station can be added at least in high and low. It is not like undocking is too risky or anything. With exception of Amarr and some Minmatar stations, player can just observe the grid and redock with perfect safety again. And if it is kicker station, then undocking in pod solves it → pod cannot be caught on undock and in worst case the player could just set the station as his home.
Allowing to view undock from inside station really doesn’t add anything new that wouldn’t be possible already.
Smart hunters do not sit at undock anyway. See BLACKFLAG. and their Jita hunting strategy.
EDIT: And I just realized that this feature cannot be used in sov null since you don’t have a station to scout undock from. And if you built a citadel in enemy territory then you can easily sit tethered at that citadel undock with capsule - 0 chance for it to be bumped off tether. Likewise if it is your citadel, then undocking is perfectly safe even during the same citadel being under attack so allowing to see undock from insane doesn’t give you any benefit anyway. So argumenting with sov null is nonsense.
Same with wh.
Because in order for sci-fi to be believable there has to be elements of the real world.
Market, Mining, Manufacturing, War, Piracy… All taken from the real world.
There are no castles in Chess.
Pterodactyls flew, and they were big birds. Bigger than anything we have now.
It isn’t missing the point. This thread is about being able to look outside the stations… windows do that.
Gallente stations have enourmous panes of curved glass attached to them. This means that we know windows exist… in game. We don’t have to consult real life. Gallente has so much glass that they fashion massive 400 story windows. That window makes the Obelisk appear small.
And what do you think those lights are all around the rim? Those look like windows to me. In game. No one is consulting real life for this.
What does this have anything to do with sov null?
Mobile observatories can be deployed in all null and low sec areas. Wormholes have no NPC stations and Pochven systems have default mobile observatory pings, so the only area where stations cannot be be kept clear with mobile observatories of cloaky eyes is HS. This makes HS the exception, rather than ‘sov null’.
So what ? I mean…have you ever wondered why your ship totally defies physics and has its thruster still firing when it is de-celerating ? It’s a frikin game. The gameplay takes priority over ‘reality’. You don’t see outside stations for the very simple reason that you’re not supposed to…as part of the gameplay. Arguing about windows is thus just silly.
You need to play Chess more often.
Although the move is called “castling”, it is done with a rook, not a “castle”.
So no, horses don’t “jump over castles”. They are called knights.
That piece is not a “castle”, it’s a tower and it’s called a rook.
But since you cannot stand to be wrong, I will end our spitting contest and let you have the last word because I’m nice like that
A rook is a bird of the Corvidae family
Today’s EVE competition. What does this look like…
- A piece of smoked salmon
- A submarine
- A walnut tree
- A pair of spectacles
- A castle
Answers on a postcard to Department Of Complete And Utter Pedantics, University Of Hairsplitting, Ohio.
Definitely smoked salmon
Im not arguing about windows. I simply said it would be a simple matter to look out one.
But hey, since my ship has a mining laser, then windows are probably 100% opaque. They’re probably outlawed by a peace treaty dating back to the giant war over windows.
Definitely related to mining lasers!
I don’t know why you’re so upset. But hey, if windows really bothers you so much that a rook swaps places with a king or a knight moves in an L shape, then fine. Windows are 100% outlawed due to the treaty signed after the great windows war. Billions died in that war.
Oh and a knight does not jump over a rook. It moves in an L shape.
I remember that war, I was there, Glenduil; I was there three thousand years ago when the strength of the Windowers failed and the great many hosts of Blinders wiped them out and spread throughout the galaxy.
Lucky enough we still have Win10 and Win11. So the struggle continues…
Indeed. It was brutal. When that scientist came up with the method of turning a window into a mirror to show the emperor how ugly he really was? Genius!
Upset ? No, just laughing at the sheer silliness of people expecting every aspect of a game to comport with ‘reality’…and again and again failing to grasp that the particular mechanism is there for a reason. I imagine it must be somewhat akin to teaching a class of 5 year olds.