And next people will demand that posts with negative karma are being hidden. yes, i word it like that intentionally. echo chambers are a cancer and dislike buttons are a big step towards them. itâs an easy way towards having lots of people who arenât smart censoring the minority of those who are.
if you want this forum to be like reddit, why not go to reddit instead?
Thatâs absurd - there is no inevitable need for one to lead to the other. If that WERE the case, then weâd already be seeing posts with multiple likes being floated to the top - and yet we donât, do we? I, too, think that the converse of the âlikeâ buttonâs functionality ought to be present - currently we can express approval or nothing at all: thatâs a lopsided âsystemâ, and in fact is a form of censorship in its own right.
Because you are supposed to elaborate why you donât like something and not just hit an anonymous dislike button without giving something enough thought.
@Felyx_Ravencroft Ravencroft You express your disapproval by telling the person that you donât like something. Itâs really easy, you should try it. I just did it with this reply.
I see - and yet itâs OK to anonymously and without elaboration express approval of something? Thatâs whatâs known as a âdouble standardâ, and is related to hypocrisy, which to me is one of the most repugnant things. So, fine - either have both, or none, thatâs what I reckon.
The like counter is nothing but a meaningless statistic. It doesnât add anything but epeen value.
Threads and posts arenât sorted by how much theyâve been liked, but by the time the last post was made.
Liking also isnât anonymous. You can click on the âx likesâ and it will show you a list of everyone that liked that post.
So in the end this is nothing but uninformed ranting.
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The like counter is nothing but a meaningless statistic. It doesnât add anything but epeen value.[/quote]
Agreed - but again, still a double standard to go one way but not the other.
EDIT: Actually, itâs not that meaningless - it reflects the number of people who approve of or agree with an expressed opinion (though granted it has its limitations, severe, as a metric.) So why shouldnât disagreements/disapprovals also be enumerated?
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Liking also isnât anonymous. You can click on the âx likesâ and it will show you a list of everyone that liked that post.[/quote]
I know this - I was responding to a previous post that cited an âanonymous dislikeâ button - granted, I should have rather focused on the fact that, just as with the âlikeâ button, it need not be assumed that the implementation would be anonymous (and certainly shouldnât be, if the system is to be internally consistent.)
See above regarding âuninformedâ. As for ranting, I suggest you look up the meaning of the word; I am merely supporting the notion that, for balance and consistencyâs sake, both polar responses really ought to be given the opportunity for representation, in a rational and reasoned fashion - there is no ârantingâ here.
Because the two arenât quite the same. When you agree with someone, there is no need for any argument about why you agree with them. This most often results in posts like â+1â, âsecondedâ, âI agree with thatâ and the sort, which make for boring reading and add nothing of value.
When you disagree with a post on the other hand, then you have a reason to do so. Ideally something constructive that adds value to the discussion.
If there only was a dislike button, then constructive criticism could end up not being posted for various reasons and youâd also have those trolls that disagree with someone for completely arbitrary reasons, tainting the value a dislike button would add.
It is not because if you like something you agree with whatâs written in the respective post. There is nothing to add to this, unless you really want to expand on an idea or add your own twist to it.
If you disagree, you are supposed to explain why you disagree so that the topic or post creator can respond to this criticism and improve their suggestion or prove your disagreement wrong. You canât do that based on an anonymous dislike.
Now that this forum offers polls, you also donât need a dislike button to find out how many people like a certain idea or not.
That was never what I âlikedâ (heheh) the idea of - that âanonymousâ bit is entirely your assumption. I would absolutely NOT want it to be anonymous (as already established up-thread) - and, in fact, that would not only keep it in line with its counterpart in terms of consistency, but also address the issue of accountability while also providing the ability for someone to query or challenge the reasons for a âdislikeâ in, perhaps, a private message. There ARE times when an unelaborated rejection/disagreement is more appropriate, such as when the response may otherwise derail the thread, or lead to a flame-war, or may simply not require elaboration due to its subjective nature (âDo you like bunnies?â âNo, I do notâ - no further explanation required, in this rather weak example, )
Granted, almost any tool is open to abuse and comes with its own can of worms ready to be opened (with yet another tool?) - just as the âlikeâ button is not all up-side. Yes, I concede that agreement and dissent are not totally symmetrical - but BOTH have their exceptions: while a âdislikeâ may often beg an elaboration, sometimes so does a â+1â - and the converse also sometimes applies in both cases. So again, consistency and internal logic, that is what I âlikeâ
Unfortunately, yes, the potential for abuse or the like is also not symmetrical - and it never ceases to amaze me how much people like to focus on the negative (yes, I see the irony of advocating for a âdislikeâ button! But I AM lobbying in its favour, not against it ) - why and how NOT to do something, rather than explore the possibilities of doing something, for example⌠(yes, cheap shot, I know.)
Anyhow, all this is pretty academic to me. I would be very surprised if this feature were to be implemented, but now you know a little about why I think it ought to be. Paradoxically, I also donât hold much with popular acclaim and the like, on the grounds that the typical large population is generally dominated by the⌠less intelligent, letâs say. At least this forum is to a large extent populated by people who are able (and bother) to construct and elucidate their arguments in a rational manner.
Hahahahah! Well, that was just an arbitrary example - I do, as a matter of fact, like bunnies - they make good stews (assuming they are accompanied by adequate veg) while tasting nothing like chicken (not that I âdislikeâ chicken - itâs just that bunnies have their own flavour identity⌠particularly Easter bunnies.)
And I also like Daleks.
How can you like the biggest villains of the universe? Creatures whose only purpose is to eradicate every other living creature?
Can you imagine what theyâd do to these fluffy cute bunnies?
I like them AS villains which is totally distinct from how I might appreciate heroes/protagonists - I DO also like (most incarnations of) their arch-nemesis⌠As to the second question: theyâd probably ruin my plans for whatever recipe I was considering⌠However, those are already conveniently dispensed in drinks cups - a smoothie, perhaps⌠hmmm.