[quote=“Petrified, post:15, topic:9017”]
You can bring neutral remote repping ships to the field. Ignore the defenders and go straight for the kill. Since the Upwell structure cannot be remotely repaired, you are guaranteed a kill unless the defenders can out damage the tanks and reps of the attacking fleet. Outside of High Sec, anyone else is free game if they show up on grid.
[/quote]Not really. Neutral repping isn’t a thing anymore and hasn’t been for years. Anyone who reps another player who is in a corporation that is at war immediately goes suspect so the neutral logi can indeed be shot by an enemy citadel (or anyone in New Eden for that matter).
True, bring enough in-corp logi to tank the citadel’s DPS and you are much safer bashing a structure in that only your legal opponents can get involved, but that is how highsec is suppose to work - you have defined opponents. There is plenty of time to add allies to a war to help defend your structure and anyone can join your corp, and the war immediately to join the defence.
A manned, but unsupported citadel is not suppose to be a serious threat on its own but rather a force multiplier for the defence fleet. I am not convinced that they are enough of a force multiplier in highsec, but their baseline offensive capabilities seem sufficient to drive off solo attackers and small, opportunistic gangs on their own. If you make them able to solo whole fleets, they just won’t die, especially in highsec where most groups are smaller and made up of more casual and newer players who can’t bring 12 guys supported by T2 logi to a fight.
The fight is suppose to go on between fleets on-grid with the citadel, not with the citadel itself. If you can’t beat the opposing fleet at least once out of three times, you are going to lose that structure. Seems to me working as intended and I see no “guarantee” of victory for the attacker anywhere in the design, even if they bring enough logi to tank the structure DPS (which, I must say is pretty much a requirement for any attacker to meet). Their ships are held on-grid for the defending fleet to shoot like fish in a barrel at their convenience.