Version 22.02 - Revenant - General Feedback

After reading the release/patch notes all I see is nerf nerf and more nerfs. I may be time to take a break from eve - as I see no plus side in trying to adjust to the changes over the last 6 months.

Almost everything in null space has been nerfed to the point of uselessness.
Mining - forget it - too much time with too little to show for it.
Ratting - now a endeavor that may cost more isk to do then to make.
All these changes are just a hinderance to fun game play with the available time I have to play.
Who knows maybe in 6 months it might be fun again.

The cost of everything will go up due to now Scarcity 3.0.
There is very little Mercoxcit now available. Watch the price of this sore in about a month once the stock piles run out. As every T2 and above requires it, watch those prices rise as well.
CCP ā€“ buy plex buy plex

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CCP, you destroyed NULL mining, it was at best mediocre before, now it is totally obliterated.

We used to have 5 belts at max industry rating, so when enemy jumped into the system it had to figure first in which belt miners are.
Now there is ONLY ONE goddamn belt, no one needs to guess or scan, just warp to the only belt in the system.
Barge can warp off at best 8sec with AB trick, no time to pull drones, no time to blink. CCP what were you thinking?

What the hell happened to mercoxit?
Crabbing, hardly any system is suited for crabbing now, ppl crowd in 2-3 systems that have sites now. This is crazy.

We need at least 4-5 belts in the system !!!
CCP your invigoration of NULL is such a joke in players face its not funny.

I am truly disgusted with how you handle this

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Any CCP response jet? Will they fix the Ship Preveiw window and seperate them? Still waiting, and tik tok, doomheim4everā€¦ simple, so much hate for CCP from this updateā€¦

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In the Ship Info window, forcing the Skill Requirements into the Mastery list is confusing and not intuitive. Not to mention, in the compact window mode the completed mastery levels are not highlighted in some way to tell you that they are done, while others still need training to completion.

This is supposed to be good UI design? Really? Yoiu donā€™T see the lacking, but unnecessary skill level boxes. The necessary skill level boxes have different sizes and shapes, the entire list is a mad jittering mess without any order and orientation.

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This expansion maybe the thing that makes me quit Eve. I have dealt with the Skyhooks and the nerf to null sec movement, ive handled you all killing moon mining and mining in general, ive handled the price of super capitals SKYROCKETTING but this may well be what ends my Eve career. The nerf to stormbringer ratting, ishtarā€™s drones being primaried so thats useless and capital spawns that point you so no point using a marauder are just to much. You have ruined everything i do to relax in this game, i love to pvp but i wont be able to afford any ships to pvp in, no one is mining and i cant even krab anymore to make isk to buy the ships to pvp with. Iā€™ve been playing this game on and off since 2008 and the fact this expanse is making me what to unsub saddens me.

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You should just accept that your task in eve is to provide free kills to elite pvpers (guess from what group nearly every game dev comes from). Every change they do is designed to benefit elite pvp crowd. Even better if you canā€™t make enough isk ratting/mining, there is always plex. Double benefit, their elite pvping friends are happy and so are CCP accountants after you buy bunch of PLEX to finance providing free targets.

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THIS!!! it even says in the release notes no feeā€¦
Branded Listings for Brand Managers

Creation of Branded Listings:

    If the listing is targeted at your own corporation or your own alliance and the seller has the Brand Manager role, no SKINR Service Fee or HUB Listing Fee will be applied.

    The listing will be marked as a Branded Listing.

Purchasing Branded Listings:

    Buyers will not have to pay any SKINR Service Fees on a Branded Listing. However, an EverMark fee will be charged per SKIN, based on the SKIN tier.

Loss of Brand Manager Role:

    If a seller loses their Brand Manager role for any reason, all of their branded listings targeted to their corporation or alliance will be automatically cancelled and licenses returned to the sellerā€™s Collection.

So now the Brand manager is the guy who needs a second mortgage to hand out free skins?

The good:

  • we got two new hulls (with recycled graphics as befits anything remotely connected to Minmatar) with an interesting specialty
  • we got a new weapon + damage system with the promise of being a challenge
  • an attempt was made to mitigate the economic effect of Pochven

The not so good:

  • someone messed with the UI again, ship info and module icons (ā€œIā€™m sorry. Itā€™s our nephew. Very disturbed.ā€ J.K.Rowling)
  • spent a majority of resources on finding more ways to push PLEX for SKINR
  • released a nonsense deployable - should have stuck with a siphon
  • ignored nullsec grievances about previous ā€œexpansionsā€
  • ignored small gang pvpā€™ers using Skyhooks for content creation
  • over-estimated the importance of corp projects again
  • nerfed niche ship uses
  • made no effort to fix the economy (Pochven isnā€™t itā€¦)
  • managed to alienate even more people
  • no bug fixing

After 5 years of continuous scarcity releases itā€™s hard to mince words.
The overall score for this expansion patch is:

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The change to drone aggro is horrific. Be prepared for null-sec blocks to start screaming and unsubscribing.

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If you dont plan on reverting the anomalies Iā€™m Gona unsub my storm pilots.

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Is it just me, or do we now have dying whale song in space? You know, space, that well known conduit for acoustic transmission and habitat of cetaceans?

@CCP_Bee

I have just looked at the new expansion, but have not had the time to explore all the new things in detail.

I did look at the new ship information window and in general i looks fine.

I have one question though. In the old version when you looked at the ship with the skins there was a size indication of how big a ship is. I cannot seem to find this piece of information in the new overview. Am I missing something or has this piece of information been left out?

I know this is a minor thing, but it was just a nice detail to have. SInce you have expanded on each shipā€™s lore I just thought the size of the ship would also be nice to have.

I hope you can clarify. Thank you.

EDIT:

Found it - under ship attributes. Lower left corner.

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Making NPC warps instead of spawning devastating and awful decision.

It kills atleast 4 types of gameplay that dont really pay that much compare to C6 ratting and Pochven and only comparable to t6 solo cruiser abyssals.

  • Kills smartbombing ratting
  • Kills autotargetting missiles ratting
  • Kills thunderchild and storm ratting
  • As there no such ratting setups were putting in space its killing BO drops on them, there much less target to drop
    -Neither i should say about drone and fighter aggro

Let me explain how: not only warp in mechanics break the chain of vortron gun and makes every shot in-between waves usless, but its spawning distance. Ratts warp with in 15 km spread from the very center of pre-patch spawning point. Means you got 15km off frigate one side starting chasing your thunders with 900ms speed, but another BS being warped opposite side with in 15km. Dont be fooled by people saying you can move you rod(frigate thunders shoting) and kill everything, its not for that. Its to avoid locking multiply target each time with big amount of toons (to compare smartbombs pack doesnt lock anything). Smartbombing pack simply doesnt have 15km distance for such in-warp. And autotargetting ships, simply stop autotarget exept one ship being lock and damaged by npc.

An common pack of thunders contains 5 to 6 thunderschild and will net you a little above 500 mill/h. Its solo cruiser t6 income. I dont understand why you keep breaking the game drowning people away to the activities they dont like. Ive got my ratting set up only to keep my accounts running and spend 2h ratting every day, at this point im switching to mining and if it wont pay me 500-600 million per h i might quite the game, with current plex prices ratting already became a chore and odd activity and i dont wanna actually quite the game at this point, its just impossible to make isk for me. I can not switch to beacon ratting or t6, simply because i have to relocate to many sp. And im sure there dozen of people with in same position as me.

tl dr: making anoms warps instead of spawning breaks the game and and worst patch since scarcity and black out

p.s. spread this msg across forum reddit etc. dont make people full you that rod moving is helping

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@Arorin_Thiesant Welcome to the community :hugs:

500km scram on NPC caps?
That will certainly make people excited about ratting in anything expensiveā€¦

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CCP didnā€™t ask me directly to me to reduce the number of accounts active i have , but I can say yes without been ask, it doesnā€™t matter for me. I donā€™t need my thunders anymore.

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Neither accounts. I have very usefull stuff on the account where my thunders are, i cannot afford keep them running anymore.

it does not help moving the lr at all i tried runing the sites multiple times and its impossible to clear waves as before it does not work

The enshittification of EVE continuesā€¦

To the players, just remember that everything that appears in the game is an intentional choice by the designers.

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Is there something specific youā€™re referring toā€¦?