War Declaration period for not paying is not healthy for the game

there was a recent change to market PVP to stop people from making empty sell/buy orders to manipulate the market. it was an exploit and changed.

Why do I mention this? there is a war dec exploit for free week of kills.

A wardecca can manipulate free engagement of another player for a period of up to a week before paying the fee. (free kills for a week). then when they cannot pay they get another 24 hours.

There is no downside or risk for the wardecca for doing this nonsense.

Please can CCP fix this as a priority?

  • They need to pay to play this game upfront.
  • or they need to have a standing hit for not paying
  • or they all get suspect timers for the 24hours they could not pay.

You seem to be really confused about how the war system works (I’m going to assume because you’ve never launched your own war, and have only ever been a victim of wars launched against you by others).

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This is not a thing that exists.

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Wardec fees are paid up front.

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Please explain in more detail. Eve mail me if you do not want to say this on the forums for obvious reasons.

What they need is to bring back the original wardec system. No risk free hiding in player corps, no structure safety for bears to avoid them by not anchoring anything, etc.

We need the return of privateers, orphanage, mbalm etc. Killing content is bad CCP!

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Unless the corp join a alliance that was at war already.

If nothing else it would make sense on what the OP is rambling about with his limited understanding. We have had cases where a corp warps a freighter, while in warp to gate they join an alliance after the initial 24hour period. And surprise us by being flashy red on the other side. Fun for the whole family.

At first we called our scout alts idiots for not seeing a war target freighter coming in. until we realize what happened.

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Sent: 2021.12.09 23:55

The war between aggressor. and patsy has been retracted by CONCORD

as the appropriate bills for the conflict were not paid.

After 12/10/2021 23:55 CONCORD will again respond to any hostilities between those involved with full force.

Sincerely,
Your friendly neighborhood CONCORD police squad

and again a war dec ends through lack of payment. yet they got a week free. and then a 24 hour cool down.

ALL free engagement -

What is happening. Not against wardecs. Just against free wars.

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Sent: 2022.01.13 02:27

The war between “wardecca corp”. and “you” has been retracted by CONCORD as the appropriate bills for the conflict were not paid.

After 01/14/2022 02:27 CONCORD will again respond to any hostilities between those involved with full force.

Sincerely,
Your friendly neighborhood CONCORD police squad

Why do you keep thinking this?

You don’t know what you are talking about. I actually went and looked now.

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100mil was paid to start a war on the 7th which then lasts a week. On the 13th you got an email stating that the bill was not paid it will cycle down in the next 24 hours. Meaning according to your post at 14/01/2022.

Where exactly is the free week? 100mil was paid for a week, that is exatcly how long it is lasting because the war bill was not paid. If they decided to pay the bill for 100mil they can continue the war indefinitely as long as they keep paying the 100mil upfront for the next week.

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I think this person never launched a war before, so they have no idea that wars are paid for in advance, and the first payment is due right away.

I think you are wrong or the email from CCP is wrong.

from what I read in the concord email, you can start a war without paying. and when it is not paid you get an extra 24 hours.

you have to pay to start a war, you cannot just start a war and not pay for it.
and all wars end with a 24 hour cool down period…

so there was no “free week”, they just didn’t pay another 100mil for the wardec to continue

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Go try it, and report back to us with your findings.

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So the email is wrong? The war was not stopped because of lack of payment?

I feel we have a stalemate, where you cannot express a simple yes or no.

When you go to declare war, you pay 100 mil to start a war, then it is a week long war. if you don’t make a payment by the end of the week, the war will be declared over due to lack of another payment.

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OMG…

Is my only response to you…

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Go start a war. You very obviously need first-hand experience with the system, as per my initial reply to you nearly 3 weeks ago.

The initial fee is to begin the war. The mail you mention is what happens if the aggressor decides not to extend the war into the second week.

What you don’t want to see is NO mail, that means you get another week of entertainment from your new friends. (Which means they paid a second fee.)

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