So manny idots in Eve, we are so lucky to have you so smart here …
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Yes, that’s indeed the case.
Considering most people around here, though,
that’s not even an actual achievement.
LSG … do you take meds against your condition?
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Its purely binary for anyone not lacking a little sense, if your group of players can’t afford to drop 500mil on a structure, why do you feel you should be given access to features that require it? they don’t need to be “creative” with it, you need a HQ in order to declare war on someone else without their consent, you need to have something to risk
If they are too scared to leave NPC corps why in gods name would they opt-in to the wardec system by dropping a structure, new players have no need to deal with wars, and without a structure they don’t, i’m getting the feeling you’re very confused about something here, if you don’t own a structure you cannot be the target of a wardec, so new players are infact safer now than they ever have been with regards to wardecs, so this part of your post makes literally zero sense because new players won’t want to wardec people and they really shouldn’t be worrying about owning structures until they are in a position to be able to defend them
If you want to wardec people you need to step up to the big boy tables and risk it, if you want to play at the kids table then by all means find a group who want a mutual war and go from there or just play around in FW
If your corp can’t afford 500mil between its members then you really shouldn’t be worrying about wardeccing anyone
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You don’t understand how it works.
Before winter you could not be decced unless you are in a player corp. Player corps are not imposed onto players, and therefore decs aren’t. Wardecs were the balance of being in a player corp. You are not entitled to be in a player corp. They are OPT-IN only.
Since winter, you cannot be decced unless you have a structure up. Same as above. You are not entitled to have a structure. They are OPT-IN only.
I’ll say this again;
Anyone who complains about getting decced needs to check their entitlement. You chose to put yourself into a position where you can be decced. No one forced you into that position.
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You literally overlooked the part where I differentiated NPC corps vs player corps
I didn’t over look it. I ignored it because you contradicted yourself within a paragraph.
War Declarations are a risk that every player corporation has to face and they are under no circumstances considered harassment. Wars in general can be completely avoided by remaining in an NPC corporation
Wars are opt-in. True or false?
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Make a cake and leave out a few ingredients, does it matter?
WHIP IT!
Anyone could have said this was coming.
Creating a flat fee drives all the power into the hands of mega corps who can just declare war on EVERYONE
Because of the way wardec fees were previously calculated, this change has made it cheaper for small vs big and more expensive for big vs small. Basically this has the opposite effect from what you have described.
I feel there’s opportunity. But a paid-for account is required. I think pvp will evolve. Was thinking on it and wormholes will probably become a very popular place real fast.
As for baking a cake, be creative, use what you have, and for gosh sakes, try it before serving to anyone.
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I can’t think of a scenario where a small group would want to wardec a larger group.
Why give that larger group free wardec that you’re paying 100mil for?
You are an idiot.
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For the target rich environment.
Wardeccers often fight outnumbered. Even today. Look at all the decs against eve uni or rvb.
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So is it just for the sake of pvp? That’d make sense then. Guess I was thinking too business oriented.
Ok I’m repeating myself again. It’s not that there should not be risk, what I am saying is is that risk should be relative to what the WHAT to risk. Using your casino analogy again, what you are saying is that everyone must play at the same table (old grandmothers and Asian high-rollers) and what I’m saying is to get corps the option to tailor the WarDec option a bit more than just no-risk or risk everything.
If a small corps wants to enter the world of station ownership that should be encouraged. If two small corps want to start a war over a moon mining station great! What is bad is when PIRAT or Marmite (or whoever) knocks on their door and asks “can we play too”?
In 2019 there should be more though put into this rather than just the binary ‘all-or-nothing’ solution…if what CCP is saying they want is actually what they want.
Well business as well. Wardecs can and do happen for any reason.
You underestimate the skill and determination of some eve players, whilst also under estimating how feckless other eve players are.
A small group of good players can fight against a large group of dumb asses.
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The cost of war dec are not the issue, it’s the HQ that is the problem for certain players. One of my (many) different play styles was the war dec solo hunter. The effort it takes to be a very good hunter is far greater than big corps like PIRAT that just sit on gates along the main pipes. BORING! With the HQ feature and it’s location being publicly known, it makes it impossible to defend said structure against any large force. It puts the hunter at a huge disadvantage during a war as you can’t be two places at once. CCP should be promoting active play styles and players that put effort into their game, instead of catering to big corps and null sec blocks.
I do go into wh, low sec and null sec to find prey, but it’s not the same. To be a war dec hunter, you need to outsmart and outplay your opponent to get the juicy kills. Low sec players are pretty good to fight, null sec players run to their stations so fast I sometimes get whiplash and wh’s are very hit and miss.
The hunter, the nomad, the skilled solo specialist are being killed off by the decisions made by CCP and that is a shame. Before someone says “it’s an MMO, your not supposed to play alone”, keep in mind, I don’t play alone. I kill alone.
For war dec to have any real future as a high sec career, CCP needs to get rid of or drastically change the HQ feature to help support smaller corps and solo hunters.
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Well put…
This raises one other point NOT mentioned in this thread yet, and I hate to say it but Scipio is wrong…it does NOT lower costs for small corps to fight big corps.
Rather it INCREASES costs.
Small Corp needs 600 mil to start a war (the HQ cost, and the war). And likely has few structures to risk as HQ.
A big corp has arguably many MORE structures to risk as HQs? but is still only required to have ONE to risk.
One to defend.
One to lose…
Out of many…
They only have to spend 600mil for unlimited warfare right? They can use the same HQ over and over for multiple war decs?
If so…then the real balance would be requiring 1 structure per wardec.
As of 23:00: 2 corps have started 82% of the 312 wars in June
(I’ll now do this tally just once a day around this time)