Wardecmechanics

Hi there, regulary there is a cooldown, between wars like 2 Weeks or so.

But it seems, that players found a way to abuse game mechanics, by creating a new corp, or alliance, and swith to them.

We have now since 4 Weeks war, against the same guys, In total we would have like 8 Weeks of peace. But no we dont have it.

Any Chance, the CSM, take care, i wrote already a ticket to CCP. But they say, CSM has to take care about that.

What kind of extra restrictions do you suggest that accomplish the peace you want?

I cannot think of anything that works. Even if you could somehow change the mechanics to force the war deccing players to stick with their current group while it is on wardec cooldown, they could simply have alts in a separate second corporation and switch to those alts to continue their wars against you, bypassing the cooldown. Alts mess up these things.

The only real option I see for true peace from wars is to not put up any upwell structures.

No structures, no wars.

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the only thing that would work, would be a cool down, not for the attackers to start another war but for attacking, by anyone, a corp that was recently attacked and the wardec expired. within the cooldown period.

You could still join the ongoing war, as an attacker or ally but it would end as soon as the first wardec expired. It would promote massive battles instead of prolonged ones. And would give everyone on either side time to “recharge” IRL when it’s over.

Probably, but not necessarily so if the CEO/directors pushes war on another corp asap via a shell corp.

Is it sound or rubbish? Was it already like this in the past and had been changed to promote more PvP?

Then I declare war on my own corp with an Altcorp just to set me on ‘cooldown’ every so often, being war immune most of the time.

Just don’t own a station, simple as that. A corporation that doesn’t even know how to efficiently fight during a HS war simply don’t need an own station, they can live off an NPC station and are perfectly fine…

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Sh*t, smart :brain: :sweat_smile:

But you would need to own the structure on that shell corp and it needs to be 7 days old. It would take some time and ISK to build, not much but still, and still would cost ISK just to prevent from being wardeced. And if someone would noticed the wardeccing pattern, they could simply wardec that shell corp after the shell corp first. Until the pattern stops, then hit the target corp. It would still provide PvP content.

And what if there was no cool down for attackers, only for those who were recently attacked, under the condition they are not attacking some corp in “been attacked recently” cool down?

The “attacked corp rest cool down” could also be reduced or corp age for owning a structure extended accordingly.

Yh, so far it’s the only solution for solo or small corps …sadge :pensive_face:

Well, if you really want, you can create a “Holding Corp” that just owns the station and give Access to the “Main Corp” via Access Lists. So they can use all the services, but the members can’t be attacked by WarDecs. Only the Holding Corp with the structure can. So you may need to evac the station and replace it every few weeks. If you keep it cheap (unrigged, unfitted, minimum fuel) and your members know how to get their stuff off it in case of a wardec, your profits from using the services might be bigger than the loss of a cheap Athanor every so often.

However, if you are small- or solo, just use a POS tower. Nobody will wardec you over it and you can use everything except reactions. Manufacturing, Researching BPOs, making copies, Invention… all fine.

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Does this mean you can make your own corporation war-immune to any war deccing group by declaring and losing a fake war with your own alt-corp to put it on war cooldown?

Edit: I see Syzygium thought of the same exploit.

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well the thing is database thing, if they want to attack with alts, yeah go for it. but switching alliances, for that, sorry, this is a no go for me. Then we can remove the wardec immunity timer for all, then there is no need for switching alliances.

The real thing would be some personal cooldown, - if they want bring alts, good for ccp , what ya think ?

I am personally of the opinion that any pilot should always be responsible for his actions. And these actions should have consequences.
So, if he is in a corp that had a war and there is still a “cooldown”, he cannot join another player corp while this cooldown is still active. If he doesn’t want to stay any longer for other reasons, he can switch to an NPC corp, but not a new player corp unless all war cooldowns have run out.

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this sounds solid ! sir !

Others just take their place.

Something needs to be done about this.

The biggest abuser is E.T.C a Chinese corp that abuse’s the mechanics to perpetually keep wardec on over 250 corps for free since April. They do this so they can gank in highsec without any intervention from concord.

They should be paying 25 billion isk for the privilege, but they do not. Since they abuse the mechanic to left to alliance and create a new one to get a whole extra week every week of free wardec on 250 corps.