1 ISK. AKA trading places…
Intelligence would help.
I think you’re misinterpreting sarcastic responses for genuine hate. Sorry, but not all of us are ill-tempered like DMC. Neither I nor any PvPer or ganker or whatever else I know want anyone to leave the game, with the exception of people who won’t stop constantly crying and begging for non-consensual PvP to be nerfed (who are a vocal minority), and even then only because they’re doing harm to the game with what they say, and not because we hate them or whatever.
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Thank you. I wish more people would just bring the relevant stuff to their discussions. Makes it so much easier instead of 80% of the discussion being about uncertainties about the material itself.
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The Arazu and Cynabal most likely worked together, and with an eye on the ship bonuses: the Arazu functioned as a cloaky long range tackle and the Cynabal as the damage dealer that can quickly jump into a system and warp to the Arazu to help when the Arazu has caught a target.
It’s a tough fight when you get caught by them and without backup you’re not going to survive getting tackled by that Arazu.
What you could have done to stay alive:
1. Keep an eye on local chat
2. Mine aligned when you spot possible hostiles
3. Warp off when hostiles get too close
The Arazu most likely has a targeting delay of 6 seconds after they decloak (which can be reduced to a 3 second delay with cloaking level 5 and specific rigs) in addition to a 3 second lock time to lock your retriever.
This means you had 9 seconds to warp off after the Arazu decloaked next to you, or 6 seconds if they minimised locking time.
Your Retriever, if aligned, can warp off as soon as you give the warp command. My guess why you got caught is that you weren’t aligned and reacted too slow.
Now that you know what to do (keep eye on local, align to safety if you spot danger, warp off if danger gets close) you won’t get caught next time. Hopefully.
It is also possible that the Cynabal caught your ship first if you happened to mine at the warp-in point of the site. In that case a Cynabal alone would have been enough. To avoid that scenario:
4. Don’t mine near the warp-in point of a belt
5. Repeatedly use your d-scan at short range (1 AU) to spot incoming uncloaked ships before they land on grid if you expect hostiles
Dracvlad I’d like my 1 ISK now…
I stand corrected, I was sure it took longer than that. I guess I will be eating humble pie, I better log in and give 1 ISK to Destiny and apologise to all for my error. Damn I was so sure, LOL - Seriously was there another adjustment to the tank to get it to the current level, I was so sure that it was later. Oh well…
Still the point is that they adjusted the tank for a good reason.
See, you don’t have to apologize. You just have to learn to differentiate between trolling, and people you disagree with (who you expect to be trolling you) referencing actual facts and history.
No matter what people think about me, I’m not a liar. And I’d say the same for all the other ganking/PvP advocates here. I’ve never seen anyone flat-out make up evidence or anything like that. But the other side sure seems to do it a lot, as is evident with the exchange I’ve just had with another poster.
And I agree. And most people, in fact, agreed at the time. Barges (especially T2 variants) were disproportionately thin. I think a major point of contention was that they didn’t differentiate yields between the models enough. We wanted there to be more than a 15% yield difference so that players would use the thinner barges more often.
I’d in fact be in favor of bumping Hulks/Covetors up another 15% yield today.
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Being outnumbered and outgunned applies to all ships, not just industrialists.
You’re complaining about how the sandbox plays. Not necessarily ganking.
Barge EHP buff?
Inferno 2012. They were the first ships to get ‘tieracide’.
Oh someone beat me to it.
There are no ganks on your killboard. Do you have a lot of ganker friends, or how did you get so much intimate knowledge of gankerdom?
Sure you do.
It’s not about virtue, but public record. What the “griefers” say always falls much more closely in line with actual history than what their victims say. If you have any examples to the contrary, feel free to provide them. My examples are right here in this thread.
Mining is easymode PvE. It is a garbage playstyle and should be removed entirely from the game. My source is myself. I have a mining character I mine on, and a mining corp full of multibox miners. I also joined a big mining op a few times and I have even led mining ops.
Welp, you’ve just made some enemies…
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Lucas discusses his gank career (August 2013),
Remember, I was with the New Order for a few month until I realized it’s not going anywhere.
Such expertise!
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Lol, can’t even own your own quotes?
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Pay me and I will.
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Well, the work day started so I’m paying less attention now.
Anyway, I don’t see how this relates to my “misinterpreting sarcastic responses for genuine hate” comment, which holds true here. You’re not being hated. And there’s a history of you claiming to be/have been involved in ganking. Pulling specific quotes is a tricky thing because posts get edited or deleted. I don’t know whether that quote is accurate and it would take an inordinate amount of work to find out (it’s not like pulling patch notes), so this one’s between you two.
This seems to be a case of false valour.
Lucas is pretending to be a ganker, and claiming as an “experienced ganker” that he has unique expertise and insight into the nature of ganking.
Not at all, he has clearly stated what ganking he has done several times.