Thank you for proving my point.
It does not warn you of the risk.
It used to be I, and many others would insult you for not knowing this. But EVE has woke players now who show up and they think they can go anywhere and do what they like, then shed salt tears (my personal favorite 
) about getting popped/not being able to do so.
Who cares what they said. This isnât UO. You really must be desperate for âquotesâ if you have to trawl through obscure references in other gamesâŚand even your EVE quotes are 7 years ago.
At which point Brisc Rubal ( who said thatâŚagain I emphasise 7 years ago ) stopped having anything more to do with wardecs ? He didâŚdidnât he ??
So what ? The best year for Chateaux Margaux was 1990âŚevery year since is still some of the best wine in the world.
GoshâŚyou strain at a gnat and swallow a camelâŚas the Biblical saying goes. You somehow manage to work out some grandiose claim like pulling a rabbit from a hatâŚout of practically no relevant or timely or useful information whatever.
And once again you are using âargumentum verbosiumâ and shoving in everything but the kitchen sink. Just toss in a bunch of âfactsââŚquite literally word saladâŚand out pops some claim that only in your mind can be derived from said âfactsâ.
I am reminded of OâBrien desperately trying to convince Winston Smith that 2+2 = 5
It was a good point, worth repeating.
Yo Bladewise. Been like what, 11 years? Pretty sick that youâre still around after all this time, far as I know everyone else from SN moved on, largely as a result of CCPâs policies that are contributing to EVEâs demise.
Edited to be more on-topic because someone still hates SN after all these years and flagged this.
To be fair, they are facts. They may no longer apply to, today.
EvE did have a hayday. A pinnacle at which the most players had ever logged in. But that number has reduced, but that doesnât necessarily mean that the game is dying. Sheâs trying to dupe people into believing that a correlation is the same as causation. A perfect example of this kind of trickery is the ice cream causes murder example.
Murder rates go up in the summer time. Ice cream rates also increase in the summer time. Therefore the increase in ice-cream sales increase murder rates. Failing to take into account that there just might be a third factor at play here. Heat.
Now sheâs going to claim, after reading this that the third party here is ganking. But that canât be because she made the claim that the primary source of the game dying is ganking, so there isnât some sort of third party at play here like, lack of interest. Lack of available time, age of the game, saturation of games on the market. None of that exists, and none of that could possibly factor into it, unless some learned hack, releases some study that isnât at all biased, nor takes into a broad sampling range says otherwise.
I mean at some point in time, they will pull the plug on the severs, and people like Kezari will throw her hands in the air and proclaim, âI was right! EvE was dying! See, it all came true! Completely and totally convinced that it was all the signs they claimed were there, unaware that, things just naturally die.
Seasons come and go.
But they will hark that it was all the gankers fault, then move onto the next PvP orientated game, claim that itâs not, foul up the forums with cherry picked and out dated âfactsâ and cry how mean pvpers ruin things, until that game is shut down.
Itâs very much like the parasitic life cycle of malaria.
you forgot about HIllmar, the CEOâŚhe is still running the store.
Hilmarâs been around for a very long time, but just going by the wiki article on CCP Games I donât believe heâs one of the three original founders, not that I know them personally or know much about the company other than that.
Citadel? Back then there were no citadels, there was not war HQ, it was %100 pure greif and statation games.
Entitlement was expecting the existing system where 5 groups were declaring over %50 of the wars with a 100:1 kill ratio would contine forever.
Yet with the current âno structure no warsâ mechanic we would have been able to do what we were doing without the inconvenience and still get as much value from an activity as any other group.
Nothing stopping people from fighting in low sec or null, plenty of suspects out there to this very day.
There are a number of 31337 PvP U tubers who seem to find a congo line of n00bs thinking their kestrel is just the thing to take on a faction fit orthrus who might disagree.
Null has no shades and it has plenty of places where nothing happens.
World of Tanks actually, even with the odd teir mismatches the sides were at lease event. Games that refuse to adapt to the market will not last, especially not games that put the incumbents into an indomitable position from which they can piss all over the new people with impunity.
I must have blinked and missed it. The Skyhook robbery mechanic was a huge but temporary boost to PvP, though really became a victim of its own success. The null groups got exhausted with the constant pinging, despite its very unique mechanic that forced the agressor to make a commitment rather than just be another nano kitey crapfest like the ESS.
That assumes one is a seller, and not a buyer. A monthly spend of $15 gets quite a lot of spaceships, easily double that of 5 years ago since prices are not indexing with PLEX inflation. There isnât a PvP player in the land who would say no to things costing lessâŚ
The collosal failure of blackout indicates otherwise.
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It was OP for people using a menagarie of alpha accounts to pull off ganks, otherwise CCP wouldnât have locked red safety behind omega status. If âyaâllâ werenât such a greedy bunch a modicum of restraint wouldnât have killed the golden goose.
Show me in the NPE where there is PvP?
Well, its not like cornflakes come out of the box with milk already added?
Actually most of those currently PvP because they want to, or at least want to learn.
The EU-TZ I play with are a pretty bloodthirsty bunch, always the same charaters logged in but it is getting depressing with the number of 100MN nano stabbers trying to rob the ESS and just cloaking/fillamenting away. Though I do dislike the nano kitey folk that hang off the ESS grid just as much, sure its âPvPâ but is it really when they can run away faster than sonic the hedgehog ?
Bless
Preach
I was with you up to 1x scram. Warp Core stabalizers being limited to 1 per ship is kinda crappy, but a 1x scram limit would mean +2 bonused ships would be uncatchable.
How aboue just make scrams and other electronic warfare subject to RNG like ECM?
Maybe for losses in high sec, less so for low/null, but hey if CCP ups the cost of platinum insurance for this kind of service and people pay, why not right ?
Oh they would totally prefer to see the whole ship sink, then they will just repeat the same behaviour in a new environment and kill that one too.
Anyone not blue, most Null groups grow of of their Emo phase quickly.
You mean to tell me thereâs no goth baddies in null-sec? Thatâs it Iâm staying in highsec forever.
Yes, but they pay a sub, so CCP must bend over backwards for them.
Your opinion of the game would be more relevant if there were any evidence whatsoever that you actually play the game at all.
Gosh, if only I had thought ahead, and put in some sort of qualifier statement, knowing that thereâs always some idiot comes along saying âHey you made statements about wide trends but I have one specific counterexample in mind so everything you said is therefore wrongâ.
Oh wait, I did!
And I guess you struggled with the proper quote you got wrong too:
And thatâs the one you used as your âcounter-exampleâ to âprove my absolute statementsâ wrong. But oh look, you got that wrong too!
Well, donât worry. It was obvious from the moment you started typing that you were going to chicken out. I guess a high-sec âPvPâ âwarriorâ with a killboard full of weak targets couldnât really be expected to risk 5 bill in a fair fight.
That would be so out of character.
What kind of targets are on YOUR killboard?
Yeah man, you did. You missed that Forsaken Fortress nerf where the poor PvPers were forced to go shoot trillions worth of citadels. And that Warp Stab nerf where now they donât get the thrill of thinking their target might escape. And that Resistance nerf that means the fights are less challenging and over quicker. And Blackout, that was a harsh one too.
Itâs just nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf. I feel bad for those guys, I really do.
And you think that merely adding âIn generalâŚâ makes your absolute statements general ones ??
NopeâŚI only needed half the quoteâŚi.e âPeople only PvP when they both profitâŚâ because in case youâve never done basic kindergarten maths both includes two people so I only need to make the case for one of them to disprove your statement about both. Duh.
One of my chars got two kills in null only yesterday. LookâŚhere is total kills, total losses, total ISK killed, total ISK lostâŚfor all my chars. OhâŚthatâs 2.7 Trillion in case you canât do big numbersâŚ
Meanwhile the char you are posting on has one kill in 2017 and you want to lecture me on PvP warriors ?
What happened? You can tell Zaera.
Somebody gank your Ibis or something?
You do have a way with words good Sir! 
I still blame the whales, but thatâs just me.
Is that helping?
