What is this CCP?

i do not care how fast your internet connection is.
i have limited data per month. and these dudes at ccp give me patches everyday… i can’t play this game for the rest of the month.
i have other things to do online, which use data too.

it is annoying and just bad.

why can’t you compress the files at least? how can a simple patch have 2GB???
a fkin patch that changes a number ingame??? this takes 2GB of filesize? are you smokin the wrong stuff or what???

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Get a better ISP that doesn’t charge based on data. All Online/live service games are like this.

Games reuse assets a lot. Anytime one thing changes, everything that the thing is in the game needs to be redownloaded. The size of the game isn’t getting bigger, you are just rewriting over it. That could be an audio file that exists in multiple places or a pirate ship gets a tweak and now everywhere that has that model needs to be repointed to the new model to spawn. A file can also contain a whole library of assets, so if they tweak how a structure looks to get rid of screen tearing or whatever, the entire file containing all the environmental structures will have to be redownloaded.

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that makes sense to me. ye.
i was wondering, how it could possibly be these amounts of data. but now after you explained it, i get it.

man i really need another inet connection…

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but these #!$% are doing it again!!! again 1 fkin GB

and they are even using mebibytes as unit. it is even more MB than you think on first glance!!! WHY CCP???

Again read the above, depends on the assets or what they are changing.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i just want to rant about it. stop being understanding about this everyday 1GB patches

You can go download EVE update into cafee or shopping mall with free wifi. :smiley:

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stop being pretentious.

Hes not wrong though

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I’m not though, ISPs that charge by data are overcharging most times, especially if you are a heavy user (like all gamers would be). Even phone carriers these days have cheap unlimited data plans, there is no reason your home internet should be data limited.

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That sounds like bad and lazy coding practices. The audio file should exist in only one place, and then be referenced elsewhere. Tweaking a structure visual also should not need a redownloading of the whole library. This makes no sense.

Yes there is. High data usage is wasteful and detrimental for the environment. Plus, there are better uses for one’s time than constantly sitting in the internet. Bad for the environment, bad for social skills, bad for mental health. When you’re on a limited plan you use your data much more wisely. You only use stuff you absolutely need on the internet. And nothing more.

When you’re on unlimited data all kinds of data waste will creep in and it tends to create bad online habits.

People don’t need as much data as they usually consume anyway. It’s just something most people have got used to and take for given. But it isn’t so, nor should be. We should all attempt to consume less data, not more. And certainly not ‘‘unlimited’’ amounts (which, by the way, they aren’t. Unlimited plans will start capping users if they use ‘‘too much’’).

I guess the entire gaming industry is wrong then. /s

Depends on how data is structured. If they decide that they want one file per part, then sure you don’t need to redownload a whole asset library, but if all dungeon structures are in one, then yeah that one file can be pretty big. Games are more and more complex nowadays and that requires more to download. Reminder that in the 2000s, games were only a few GB big, maybe 10 GB for the larger ones. Now they are 120GB+.

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I have the option of unlimited or 5 GB a month where I live, I use about 30-50 a month (last month was 600GB, but I had to download stuff onto a new PC), and to me the cost is only $10 difference. Yeah I’ll have my unlimited, thanks. (phones do have data throttling yes, but that’s to prevent them from replacing home internet providers and are treated separately)

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You just made the argument for there to be no gaming.. Just pointing out the logical conclusion to your post.

As someone that is retired and disabled. Getting around is harder than most people can imagine. As I do not watch TV. I do read a lot. Both online and books. At the same time gaming for me and my wife is really our only way to reach out to the world.

I am not sure how high data usage is wasteful and detrimental to the environment. But then so many things seems to be these days.

At the same time I have unlimited plans for phone and just upped our Internet to a higher level. But then we are constantly on playing and surfing the web anyways. Just wish this company had fiber optic cable. Had that in the last place we lived. Had a much smoother and stable connection than this old cable is.

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So I looked into the more common internet data caps, and it’s actually usually at 1 TB of data, which is about twice what the average household uses. If EVE is putting you over that limit, then you have other things that can likely be cut back on in all actuality. Even if EVE had a 2 GB patch a day, that is only 60 GB for the standard month. CCP is not the issue here.

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Yeah, that’s a very limited option. I agree that 5 GB a month is insufficient. And your provider knows it. That’s likely just a marketing trick to get people to buy the more expensive plan with them. You can probabaly only get by with 5GB if you go online only on weekends and just to write a few emails.

But that’s your case. I have 40GB a month plan and I get by with that just fine. I sometimes need 2-4GB more, but I’m not gonna buy the next option which is 100GB a month just to compensate for that 2-4GB over the line.

I know people who churn through 20-100GB or more data per day. That’s wasteful. There is nothing in that obscene amount of data that a person actually needs for their life. It’s just habitual use, and not a good habit to develop for yourself.

Streaming games, streaming movies, downloading games etc

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dude… i will go, pack my desktop PC and set it up in a cafe for free wifi. sure

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well there are ways to limit data-usage. for example using low quality settings for streaming music and video.
and yes, it is pretty common to have unlimited data access at home. but common does not mean it is universal.

so, WHY CCP?!

i do not get what that one guy means by data is bad for the envrionment. but okay. maybe he is one of those fruitarians, that only eat what drops from plants.

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