What to do with 60mil isk

That is actually a ■■■■ lesson, both in Eve and in real life. In Eve, if nobody ever trusted anybody, then it wouldn’t be possible to have cooperative gameplay. In real life, if a father did that to his son, he’d be regarded as an abusive parent and an asshole.

On the other hand, I guess it is sad and pathetic that in large part the world really does work that way.

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In the case of ISK doubeling services, it does. And that was the point i wanted to make here.

Completly agree with you otherwise.

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I think so too, so I just wanted to bring a bit of light and fun to the life. :kissing_heart:

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I’d get my self a relic analyser and scan for the factioned relic sites (serp/blood/gurista/sansha/angel those have no rat’s) in those wormhole’s with low skills you can get another 60mil from a single site 5min of work :]

But do it in a cheap ship as there is a chance a player will kill you in there.

About asset safety don’t keep everything inside the wormhole, every time you find a high sec connection drop some stuff off in a high sec station for future use.

Well, you can spend them at Manic Velocity’s Dodixie luxury bar.

But seriously, you can start with L3 missions and after that - L4 missions in Hi-Sec. With starting skills, the L4 will give you like 40-50M ISK/hour (depends by missions) and with high skills near 100M ISK/h.

Having 500M ISK, you can invest them into exploration ships and modules to gain even more ISK in dangerous areas of space like J- and 0-space.

@Krall_J_Rnlav
Firstly, for your first month in Eve, casually trying things out and learning the game, 60m ISK is a reasonable sum to have accumulated. Be vary wary of blowing it all on an expensive ship that you don’t have the skills to fit a good defense and weapons to. Loosing it in a mission or through a silly mistake is a heck of a setback.
The basic Empire cruisers will handle level 2 security missions. The basic Exploration Frigates, such as the Magnate, with Frigate IV trained are quite capable. And cheap.
The rule is not “don’t fly something you can’t afford to loose” but “don’t fly something you can’t easily afford to replace”.

So, good sources of income? [I’ll tell you later why that is the wrong question.]
Exploration, especially wormholes, will give a good (and exciting) income - use cheap ships (you will be killed if you are caught) and remember the trick is sliding in, looting the hole and getting out. Use D-Scan and remember to treat everyone as hostile. If you can afford it, the Astero is a cracking little exploration ship; but that’s over your budget and carries a big “I’ve probably got a valuable cargo, mug me” sign on it. And you’ll want to fit a covert cloak which is a reasonable bit of skill training.

Manufacturing: at your likely skill level it’s going to be a slow steady income rather than mind-blowing. But for a lot of items (ammunition/drones) then it’s set the job running, do something more interesting, deliver job and sell. You can reasonably expect a 20% profit or so, but they are low value items. But it adds up. https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/ is your friend. If you don’t want a lot of effort, buy/manufacture/sell at the hub. Always research ME on your Blueprints, it’s worth it. At the moment, Multifrequency S at Amarr can turn you a 25% profit - a thousand will take a couple of days to cook, and turn a half-mill profit. Slow, easy, steady. Specialist manufacturing is where the money is, but that’s skill intensive. (I’m a specialist manufacturer).

Mission running: yep, Level 4 with a high skill ship is good earning. But it’ll take time to get there - both to train for and afford to fit a good ship (when someone says “Nightmare” what they are saying is 500m ISK + 200m ISK fittings, and a few months skill training for an Omega clone) - and you’ll need to work standings up for one of the NPC corporations to gain access to the agents - you need +5 standing or better.
Mining: I like mining, but not for the income (the odd 5-10m/hr is nice), but because it’s relaxing. Really. You’ll have a Venture from the tutorials, but the steady income is when you are in barges (Omega), but in high-sec it’s not a huge profit.
Trading, can be very profitable - but you need market knowledge and a good lump of starting capital. As you probably realise, 60m ISK isn’t a big pot of gold.

Most importantly, and I can not emphasis this enough, Eve is not a game you win. ISK is not a score or measure of success. Eve is something to enjoy living in, you don’t have to be Omega, you don’t have to move to Null and join a corporation. Don’t do something because it makes ISK or because someone says “this is what you have to do to be good in Eve”, do it because you enjoy it. Exploration in dangerous areas can be fun. Finding new things is exciting, working with a group of people on a common task (whatever that may be, there are researchers, explorers, mercenaries, role players) is good, flying out and killing pirates for the Empire, ninja-mining in someone else’s patch is a hoot (not hugely profitable, but the cat and mouse is fun), a million and one things to enjoy. Chose what you enjoy and work out how to make a good enough income from it. Don’t turn Eve into a job.

If you find yourself around Amarr, look me up. I can bring you along on some of the higher level missions if you want a taster - you won’t need a big expensive ship for that.

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Using my wh I can get to amarr in no time
o7
Wonder if you want to fleet up with me? I wanna try pvp also

A big +1 to this. This is the golden rule, do what you enjoy how you enjoy it.

One other thing I would add to this excellent list of money making activities is to give Project Discovery a quick try. Not as a full-time career, but popping in now and again to do some samples can be a good way to build up some cash. If you enjoy it, get your rating up, and get decent at it, it’s possible to make some decent money to get started.

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I will 1v1 you.

But if you want to fleet, go with spectre fleet or something. They run daily fleets where you can fly whatever you want and join in on thw fun.

You will need a voice chat service set up though, like teamapeak.

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Use a measly sixth of it to get a New Order Permit.

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WTH is a new order permit?

A good idea. Just be careful on moving it from where you buy it to where you’ll sell it. You don’t want to get ganked. Do not use autopilot, if you can use a scout when traversing systems like Niarja or Uedama. Tank the ship you are using to move stuff.

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Only 10m?!? I’d pay 100 times that!!! But only if they can get back the entire original line up and get Bernard and Hooky to bury the hatchet once and for all.

:rofl:

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There is that much money in New Eden?!?

D:

If you want a flat return on investment, you might consider a jump clone with +4’s parked in a trade hub. That way, you can jump clone to it and get a boost on training time over periods where you know you’re not going to be on.

You might also consider training into a prospect or endurance for some more wormhole resource extraction.

On the pvp side, you could look up how to go about catching and killing other players who run sites. If you’ve made 60m isk in wh doing scanning, then you probably know enough to get started hunting.
That 60m you have could go to a few more probing ships (nice to have spares) and something built to kill other probers.
Doesn’t look like you have enough for an astero, but there’s no reason you couldn’t fit up a t1 cruiser or something for this purpose.

Good hunting. 7o

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send me your isk, I will double it, send it again and I will triple it, trust me a 3rd time and I will quadruple it…this will really happen because it is here for everybody to see :slight_smile:

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It works that way in EVE because New Eden is a cyberpunk/dystopian setting. The only sunshine, rainbows, and holding hands singing Kum ba yah you will experience will be short-lived once the nano-drugs wear off and you realise you’re lying on the piss-soaked floor of your rust-bucket ship that has more holes in it than a cheese grater, with 2 fingers and a kidney missing.

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Its like that only when people make poor choices. For example not giving me half of 60m ISK so I can double it. :sunglasses:

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Oh, sweet summer child.

The New Halaima Code of Conduct

Oh yeah, a new order permit is always a good idea.