How many addicts do you know ask for the addictive medium to be put away BEFORE it ruins them? Not many of them are capable of doing that, especially if they didn’t know they were inclined to addiction to begin with. (Also, many players aren’t even aware this isn’t an option to begin with, particularly since there isn’t an opt-in or opt-out setting in-game.) And once they start, many can’t stop until they lose everything. So no, it’s not that simple. This is the kind of thing said by someone who has zero understanding of addiction or empathy for those suffering from it.
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Have YOU submitted a ticket to disable this feature that outrages you?
Fellow human beings are losing $$$ to gambling. Disabling the feature for me does not help my fellow human beings.
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So you have not actually had the feature disabled for yourself, so this is basically virtual signalling spam.
Just what I thought.
You lost your money the day you bought a PLEX package or subbed or anything in the store.
I didn’t lose anything on Hypernet. It doesn’t affect me personally. I have no reason to ask CCP to disable the feature for me. But this isn’t about me - this is about those who are or will be hurt by gambling.
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Why is that wierd?
There are positive benefits to the HyperNet though.
- Allows players with rare/expensive items to more easily ‘sell’ it, without having to find a single buyer with enough liquid ISK at your location
- Allows players who gamble responsibly to have some fun
Just because some people have gambling addictions, doesn’t mean the HyperNet has to be turned off for everyone. Just because some people have gaming addictions, doesn’t mean EVE needs to shut down for everyone.
To @Garen_Avalhar : ask CCP to disable the HyperNet for your account.
It should have never entered the game to begin with. EvE is a spaceship game, not a ■■■■■■■ casino.
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■■■■ those guys
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Hit me?
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I am not a violent person.
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Baby one more time?
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It’s weird for a number of reasons. The fact that CCP can do this means it can be opted into/out of at any time, so the smart thing for CCP to have done is to have made a frontend available to players to opt-in/opt-out of Hypernet themselves without a ticket at any time. For international regulatory reasons + abundance of caution in terms of legal liability, Hypernet should have rolled out as a feature you had to opt into. It is entirely possible that there might be legal requirements - which may vary from country to country - specific to Hypernet that might not apply to the rest of the game as a whole… truthfully I don’t think CCP/PA was very thorough in examining legal implications here, particularly since the game is advertised as PEGI-12. Unregulated gambling + microtransactions + Children demographic = legal trouble.
CCP still has the opportunity to do this. They could easily roll out a patch right now where everyone is automatically opted-out of HyperNet (existing offers would remain in system even if opted out), and you’d need to opt back in if you wanted to continue using it. The opt-in/opt-out could happen via a button in the ESC menu in-game, or via your online account page. This won’t address the gambling addiction problem but it would put a dent in it (some addicts would be less tempted to gamble if they were not opted in by default, or if the Hypernet UI were not visible to them because they were opted out), and keep CCP/PA out of legal trouble if the opt-in had the proper legal disclaimers.
I cannot deny these functional benefits. However, it is not difficult to conceive of reworks that either severely diminish the gambling liability, or eliminate it altogether (eg. incorporating UI/UX features into Contracts to make it easier for the Contract system to be used to sell abyssals)
Gambling as a whole, however, is almost categorically wrong (save for niche implementations that heavily cap liability, even by “alt-aholics”, or where most/all sinks go toward a mutually desired entity such as how some state lotteries are used to raise money for scholarships). There’s no point justifying a wrong here.
And no, discontinuing EVE for gaming addiction is a slippery slope argument - I’m not going to go there.
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Honestly, hypernet is just at home to Jita as slot machines are to Las Vegas.
It was going to happen sooner or later. Now Jita can officially become the gambling central hub of EVE online like it wanted to be.
Its not wierd because its the least effort option.
The option is in there for social-rules reasons.
If I was a muslim, Id be required to ask them to limit my access, for example.
Basically: they want everyone to use it, with fringe cases refusing. Easiest way is to give it to everyone incase they accidently get addicted.
Oh I agree that EVE could have done without the HyperNet.
I just wanted to point out that there are significant benefits, to counter Archer’s statement. Sure, ‘having fun gambling’ is only a minor benefit, but for the EVE market it’s a big benefit that I could easily sell a Keepstar anywhere if I happen to be lucky enough to scoop one up, instead of having to haul it to wherever one seller could pay the entire amount in ISK.
Neither of these are significant though
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You shouldn’t have fixed that typo, it was hilarious. 
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The second one isn’t significant indeed. The first one is.
How so? Are you saying its hard to sell a super?