No, the first post linked the dev blog announcing SP trading. That is CCP provided proof, not mere evidence.
You are right, however, that it does not matter. That does not mean that I do not think that it is not appropriate to mention their lies every time they tell them. Again. And Again. And Again. And Again.
Well can trust but like the topic reads, so I like to see for myself. =)
There’s a language barrier between us.
This is not the problem. The problem is whatever is in the head of the person complaining about this devblog.
It’s like … hm … “Sugar is bad for teeth”.
No, it isn’t. That’s just for thoughtless people,
who can’t deal with more complex thoughts.
In reality sugar does nothing to teeth. The problem (!) are the bacteria …
… which are digesting sugar into something which destroys teeth.
So … what is the problem OP is having?
That they’re lying?
That they’re selling SP?
That he’s a thoughtless moron lacking any understanding of the complexities of reality?
BUT THERE IS NO LIE, DAMMIT!
These are lies. Or do you have proof to the contrary? 
You keep saying that CCP resells SP from banned characters. Where is your proof for this claim? Got a dev blog? A dev post? A tweet? Insider information?
No I was not accusing you of Lying I was commenting how even if EveMon and or tool trips show such I had always liked to see for myself on that SP per hour as I had invested my time in it.
No, they’re not.
As long as you ignore all the removed SP you’re just being intellectually dishonest …
… or, more likely, not actually capable of being intellectually honest.
It’s like you people live in a fantasy world where you think you’ve figured it all out …
… while you only ever manage to get to the tip of the iceberg, because you lack the ability to think deeper.
You’d be correct that they’re lying …
… when you completely ignore all the SP that are being removed from the game.
The sad part is that I’m really trying with you …
… but you really don’t seem capable of grasping the importance of this.
Fine, I guess.
My speculation has more logic behind it than your speculation …
… because it is a fact that SP are being removed from the game.
Any and all injected SP are indistinguishable from any and all removed SP …
… as long as there are less SP injected into the game than there have been removed.
There’s no need for evidence or proof, because it’s ■■■■■■■ logic …
… and you ■■■■■■■ lack it.
Can’t we try this in german?
We would be done already. 
100k is being removed from system each time a character extracts 500k SP (even more if over 50M SP)
Okay, so we have established that CCP tells lies because they said all sold SP would always come from regular training. Proof of this claim is the linked dev blog.
You claim that the sold SP is from banned characters. You have not provided any proof for this claim. You are speculating. You are using logic acrobatics to not lose your mind over the madness that you try to construe. To use your words:
What does regular training really mean? I can think of a number of outcomes.
Training skills on characters.
Yeah. See, we’re getting there.
You just need to learn to understand that your speculation is based on nothing …
… while I at least have arguments. If you have any arguments, I might have missed them.
My argument is “well even if they sell SP directly, there’s at least all the banned SP which balanced is out, in a way”
Your argument is “SELLING SP BAD! BAD CCP!”
I’ve never claimed that they’re giving back removed SP, because that’s as a whole is nonsense,
because - as I’ve pointed out numerous times - this is literally just numbers and not actually moving/copying anything.
So …
Do you have any evidence that all the SP they’re selling has not been trained? No.
Do I have any evidence that all the SP they’re selling has been trained? No.
Is there evidence that CCP injects SP into the system? Yes.
Is there evidence that CCP removes SP from the system? Yes.
Does it matter in what way or form SP are being reintroduced into the game? No.
Is “spawning out of thin air” an actual thing? No.
Is “reinjecting removed SP” an actual thing? No.
What you’re missing …
… and what I’m having a hard time to explain …
… is that all of this is nothing but juggling numbers.
ASSUMING that there is some sort of SP-balance which needs to be taken into account …
… would it make abso-■■■■■■■-lutely zero ■■■■■■■ sense for CCP to ignore it …
… when they’re trying so hard to keep this game running for another few decades.
And what’s worse, is that this isn’t the worst lie to pick on …
… yet there’s plenty of morons who pick on it.
It’s by far not the worst lie, which tells me that it’s more likely for people to pick on it for monetary reasons, aka envy.
It’s also a horribly consequence-less lie, because there’s no ■■■■■■■ issue. SP-inflation doesn’t exist.
Problem with this and other SP sales, is that everyone is bitching about on forum or reddit. But in the end buys it. If people wouldn’t buy packs they wouldn’t make more of them.
Please don’t use the word when it doesn’t apply?
It’s just the people who can’t afford them …
… and those who don’t understand that there’s no issue.
vOv
SP from banned character gotta go somewhere~
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that this might upset some people who have spent literal years and even decades accruing their skills with no way to progress faster. It was an investment we all made, and we didn’t do it with cash.
I mean, this might cause some pretty strong emotions, yeah? And sure, we’ve been heading down this path since skill injection became a thing, but at least it had diminishing returns. And yeah, that’s not a great conciliation either. But it’s something, I suppose.
My opinion on the subject is nuanced. The game is old and new players need a way to catch up to some extent, to at least reach a point where they aren’t spinning ships while all their friends are flying the pretty ships. But this doesn’t negate that feelings on this subject will always be strong, and maybe that’s okay. Maybe we can all agree that it’s a mixed bag.
Tell me a lie from CCP that I have not picked apart yet.
You have no proof at all for the claim that CCP reintroduces SP instead of creating it out of thin air. Not even a shred of a proof but you tell other people they should stop being bad. Talking to you is a rich experience, as always.
In fact, it is much harder to explain that they use SP from banned chars than just creating them. Banned characters are still characters that could, for whatever reason, be unbanned. Taking away the SP from those characters is more than problematic. Just creating the SP is much easier to do. Only people addicted to mind acrobatics claim … speculate otherwise.
Taken from reddit, it might shed a bit of light on this.
I enjoyed lotro for about a decade until level and trait purchasing became the norm. It ruined the game; any game. Once the producers start catering to the image-society it’s all over. Didn’t quit, still pay rent on Kin properties and the like, just dropped subscription and don’t play – waiting in case of better days. And who would want to quest in a residential neighborhood? Yet housing areas in Rohan…
And I can smell this happening in Eve. The skins, ship or body, are a mistake, the injectors a mistake, obviously skill-point purchasing a mistake. I read the arguments about sp earned in game, but frankly what I hear is ‘Organ-Harvesting’ and all that implies. It’s a corruption, and even worse, bad writing. Eve needs to be bigger, not smaller; sub-dividing the neighborhood, marketing the ‘novelty of the week’, selling what amounts to be ‘cheat codes’ just does not cut it.
While jerking content out from under-foot, melting foundations that were long trained and paid for (is this where some of that ‘spare’ sp is coming from?), selling to the new guy what you barely had the money to earn the long way, etc., sounds good, it really isn’t. It’s cheap, disrespectful, disloyal, and short-sighted.
Bethesda’s Elder Scrolls Online started out on that road, they didn’t even wait, and look how well-respected it is now. …Only natural that kind of philosophy would resonate with Microsoft.
It does not matter if one can ‘account for it’ in a spread-sheet ‘from a certain pov’; that being the exact domain the lazy writing and compromise launches from.
If a game is successful, all a producer has to do to keep it so is maintain the foundation, fix the bugs, and ensure any changes are expansions and not alterations. The kind of subscriber that stays loyal to a game is looking for territory, not novelty, and game-play, not short-cuts.
What I think anyway.
My concern, not anger, is because CCP has created a perception that they have gone against the word they gave during the Summer of Rage and Monoclegate that they would never introduce a cash for game advantage into EVE Online. The player reaction following the leak of the “greed is good” memo was incredibly strong and almost universal; players did not want something like golden ammo or other advantages purchased through the use of an in game store using real money.
Now 1.6 million SP for the hugely overpriced RL cost isn’t the main issue, but rather is this the first “out in the open” introduction to purchasing advantages using merely your wallet. Of course a form of this was always present since the character market came online, but at least you could track where and how the SP were created. You also used only in game money to pay for it. Now you would be right to say that you could have bought isk using real money and turned it around to buy SP, but the availability of the SP was limited by the amount of players for sale at the time in a competitive marketplace where players competed against other players.
My concern is that this passes the player smell test now, what other options are CCP/PA considering? We all know that the idea of an in game store selling advantages for RL money didn’t disappear from CCP’s long term financial plans. Their purchase by PA probably reinforces it (based on how BDO runs).
I guess I am from a generation ( or brought up) to think that one’s word or promise is important. Sadly, the last 3.5 years has shown that I and others like me appear to be in the minority in RL. It is not that CCP cannot change their financial ideas for EVE based on changes in their company needs. However, rather than being straight forward and honestly explaining their decission to go back on their word, they raise the spectre that CCP’s word or promise might be worth nothing. As a paying customer, I evaluate my business relationship on a constant basis. Without trying to stir any pot, I think a short CCP explanation is not unreasonable. Of course, yvmv.
Emailing folk who recently cancelled with a new offer: Good idea
Assuming I left for a reason other than disagreeing with stuff theyve done: Lazy idea
Making the assumption I care enough about “lost time” to pay over a sub to come back: Bad idea.