18.04 Release - General Feedback

[MB_ThePhotographer]

@MB_ThePhotographer

Are you alpha or omega if I may ask?

I repeat?

Edit; And do you sub or plex?

[DragoFire]

@darkestkhan_Eriker

It doesn’t. Go back to learning math.

you do know how it works I hope??

if you have a ship base resistance of 65%, any module applied to that specific resistance applies to the 35% so a 50% resistance moulde will only add 17.5% to the 65%, bring it up to 82.5% resistance.

is you have 20% ship base resistance that 50% module applied to the 80%, so a 50% module with add 40% to the 20%, bringing up to 60%.

see how the higher the ship base resistance effectes the resistance bonus to a ship from modules?!

[Elwha_Lynx]

@Anderson_Geten

Or he can just not play Eve. That’s just a stupid point : some haulers don’t decide what’s in their cargo. They haul what people ask them to haul. If it’s too dangerous, it just won’t be hauled and that’s all.
Does not change the fact that this is a huge nerf for the DST.

Hauler have tons of options to adapt to this minor change…from fitting differently, to hauler lower cost cargo, to running a scout on a cheap laptop…and many more. If there’s increased risk, hauling cost/profit margins will probably increase. Eve is about adapting and this barely moves the line compared to what ccp probably should do.

[Telinturco]

Lost almost 15% EHP from my mission runner. I don’t like it.

[Aramatheia]

theres some new loot crate thing and for some reason it gave my medium beam spec pilot a missile precision booster.

did everyone get the same or is this random? If random I have to ask, why bother? Might as well just give me an empty box, because an auto consumed missile booster for a pilot with zero missile skills is just as empty and meaningless lol

[Scoots_Choco]

@Aramatheia

Might as well just give me an empty box,

But then you’d be posting here complaining that you got an empty box where everyone else got random boosters.

[Aramatheia]

ehh you can call it complaining, I will just call it feedback. If its random then why not have it not auto consume. Why go to the lengths of coding stuff if it has a chance of being 100% pointless?

If theres a chance its not going to be valuable to the person its given too, let them take the item and trade it to someone who see’s value in it. Its like next time they create daily log in rewards that actually are just empty. Even if it takes a junior coder only 30 minutes to type up, it still adds nothing to anyone. Surely you can see that much

but hey, at least my box of air gave me the first step towards more free skill points!.. lol

[Pith_Hurdaa]

@Australian_Excellence

Because they already had double normal freighter hp and a teleport button lmao

You have to be a complete retard to lose a jf in highsec

Of course they had more HP, they are ten times the price. No matter they have a escape button, there is multiple things that a stantard freighter can do to avoid ganking too.

The thing is, once a JF is under the guns ( no matter if it is for poor planning, choicing, or being plain retarded as you mention ) before the patch you needed an “x” number of void taloses to nuke a JF before concord breaks the gank, and now you need less, hence making the gank easier.

And CCP says they don´t want to buff ganking with this patch.

@Australian_Excellence

lmao, no

lmao, yes. https://zkillboard.com/group/902/ each single day.

In fact youself have killed a couple yesterday and past yesterday, so I can figure why you´d be against buffing JF hitpoint, but I think too that it would be the fair thing to do.

Don´t worry, there will be still enough JF pilots who doesn´t check local, or have an e-cyno, or tank their ships so you can keep saving HiSec from bot-aspirancy

[Australian_Excellence]

@Pith_Hurdaa

Of course they had more HP, they are ten times the price

Why not give them 10x the HP then?

@Pith_Hurdaa

No matter they have a escape button

A button they can click at any time to avoid any situation they got themselves into.

@Pith_Hurdaa

The thing is, once a JF is under the guns ( no matter if it is for poor planning, choicing, or being plain retarded as you mention ) before the patch you needed an “x” number of void taloses to nuke a JF before concord breaks the gank, and now you need less, hence making the gank easier.

Yes it is a slight nerf, so? I’m pretty much the only person who ganks them because of how monstrously broken they are

@Pith_Hurdaa

lmao, yes. https://zkillboard.com/group/902/ each single day.

They’ve died most days this week because of one guy (me), so I’m gonna say no lmao

@Pith_Hurdaa

but I think too that it would be the fair thing to do.

Why do they need a buff? Lol, you have to be a complete brainlet to think they need one

With triple bulks, they literally never die unless they go through Uedama/Niarja. The only ones that die are the complete idiots who have to make SEVERAL mistakes to even get in the situation to get ganked, then have to be dumb enough to not fit bulks and then be even dumber again to not use a mechanic that makes all mistakes invalid because they can just teleport away to safety. They’re the single most broken ship in the game.

@Pith_Hurdaa

Don´t worry, there will be still enough JF pilots who doesn´t check local, or have an e-cyno, or tank their ships so you can keep saving HiSec from bot-aspirancy

If I don’t kill them anymore, nobody else will outside of the occasional idiot who flies through Uedama/Niarja

[Pith_Hurdaa]

@Australian_Excellence

Why do they need a buff?

I´m not saying they NEED it. Maybe what they need is more nerfs indeed lol. What I´m saying is that a hitpoint buff would be consistent with what CCP says about not wanting ganks to be easier.

I find strange that they buff normal fregihters and not JF, that´s all.

Anyway, keep up doing god´s work with those AFK antitanked jerks.

[Alic_Kutia]

Really bad step here. making solo pvp even more shitty. are we trying to ruin the game here CCP?

[Anderson_Geten]

@Elwha_Lynx

Hauler have tons of options to adapt to this minor change…from fitting differently, to hauler lower cost cargo, to running a scout on a cheap laptop…and many more. If there’s increased risk, hauling cost/profit margins will probably increase. Eve is about adapting and this barely moves the line compared to what ccp probably should do.

And whatever they do that won’t change the fact that DST lost a bunch of their EHP for no ■■■■■■■ reason.
If I want to “adapt” I need to add 1B to my fit. That’s just the opposite of “to adapt”, that is to commit suicide.
So no fitting differently. And no choosing the cargo. and no way to require more accounts is an “adaptation” form.

[Australian_Excellence]

@Anderson_Geten

And whatever they do that won’t change the fact that DST lost a bunch of their EHP for no ■■■■■■■ reason.
If I want to “adapt” I need to add 1B to my fit. That’s just the opposite of “to adapt”, that is to commit suicide.

A ship that was pretty much invulnerable with it’s 500k-1mil ehp AND could cloak/warp sounds like a good reason to nerf in my eyes.

Even now they’re still over 200k ehp with fits under 1 bil, just the tank alone makes them unkillable outside flying into Uedama when me and kusion are there, combined with cloak trick theres no reason you should ever lose a DST in highsec

[Anderson_Geten]

@Australian_Excellence

A ship that was pretty much invulnerable with it’s 500k-1mil ehp AND could cloak/warp sounds like a good reason to nerf in my eyes.

But nobody cares.
It is not 500k EHP for the hull, and any it was killable with such a fit, and you know it, liar.

@Australian_Excellence

Even now they’re still over 200k ehp with fits under 1 bil,

Again, nobody cares. You chose to make one specific fit the only possible fit for them, that’s stupid.

[Australian_Excellence]

@Alic_Kutia

iv lost some prity expensive DST’s in jita and they were well over 800kehp

Link the killmail then

100% your 800kehp was almost nothing because your hardeners werent overheated and on

[Anderson_Geten]

@Australian_Excellence

100% your 800kehp was almost nothing because your hardeners werent overheated and on

And that’s exactly the reason why all DST are not fit for 1M tank.

So you know your whole point is complete stupidity.

[Cypr3ss_Deteis]

Lol, well in the time it took me to check their KB on zkill (which shows 0 DST losses on that char) they managed to delete their post… so I’m glad you quoted it

Regards,
Cypr3ss.

[Australian_Excellence]

@Anderson_Geten

But nobody cares.
It is not 500k EHP for the hull, and any it was killable with such a fit, and you know it, liar.

What are you even trying to say? Outside me, kusion and maybe what globby used to do, there isn’t anyone killing 500k ehp DST’s, link me ONE killmail of it happening

@Anderson_Geten

You chose to make one specific fit the only possible fit for them, that’s stupid.

lmao, theres no excuse to not stick full tank and a cloak + wmd on your DST, if you don’t want to fit your ship properly, then thats all your own fault for being bad at the game

@Cypr3ss_Deteis

Lol, well in the time it took me to check their KB on zkill (which shows 0 DST losses on that char) they managed to delete their post… so I’m glad you quoted it

hahaha just had the thread still open and saw it then replyd straight away, lucky

I want these guys to link even one properly fit DST that died to anything but their own failure to tank their ship properly

[Australian_Excellence]

@Anderson_Geten

So it happens and you know it.
Thank you for proving you are a liar.

Then it isn’t hard for you to find a single kill of one of those brick tanked DST’s dying pre patch with all their hardeners turned on

@Anderson_Geten

Go ■■■■ yourself.

@Anderson_Geten

Besides the pitiful insults, you are wrong.

@Anderson_Geten

pitiful insults

Yikes, imagine being this dense

@Anderson_Geten

You just claim something out of nowhere and so you are wrong.

Link one kill, there’s lots according to you so shouldnt take more then 30 seconds on the DST page of zkill to find one then

[Australian_Excellence]

@Anderson_Geten

Unrelated.

The cries of a defeated carebear, dumpsterd by CODE. once again