20 years, 20 dollars a month, but its unacceptable apparently…
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ok, i understand completely now that you are only marginally affected by these issues and that you came here with these opinions operating under an incomplete context of whats going on!
No hard feelings man, its ok to admit things like that! 
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I’ll agree to this as well. I have no hard feelings about it. I do my best in life to look at the good things and not dwell on the bad things. I just know that no chat is no big deal in the end; there are ways to go around it.
Please explain where the bottomless wellspring to forgive these devs again comes from
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Forgiveness for the devs? No, they suck right now. It is the game I praise, not the devs
As far as forgiveness goes, I am a dev, I use cloud services, but am rarely down for more then a few hours in the worst cases. I have no idea what is going on, but for 5 days? That is one big cluster f***.
Yes! Exactly! This is why I say they suck right now. I know AWS. I’m certified AWS Dev. I’m not blind to the truth. Yes, legacy code and mistakes, okay, I give CPP that. But this whole weekend? Three days or five days (I was only aware of 3 days) is one thing. Each day goes by, and no update? Come on; this is not cool at all.
I’m still waiting for large skill injectors to max out my Game Dev skill in game. Send me all your injectors so I can fix the chat before next weekend!
You can use a watchlist; however my grouo use the MOTD to list important fleet roles that I need on my watch list.
It looks like you will be waiting a long time, buddy. You may as well fix it and then receive payment later. Do you think your CCP or something? No, no, you get paid after the job is done.
There was a small client update when I logged on a few minutes ago, and everything seems to be working normally. Fingers crossed.
And what will happen when the Casuals go? Oh yeah right your game will die - just like in Blackout. You will never learn…
It appears that the game survived blackout…
Yeah because it was lifted and the Casuals came back.
Well, with this mindset, chat will be fixed and they will come back again.
That´s right -they will come back.
On the other hand. If you pay 20 Bucks for a Service then it should be functional.
I understand both sides
Sum but not all. The affects of black-out took time to be undone, and the game was arguably in a better place back then.
Oh yes, I totally am with you on that. I paid 3 months on a few chars (this weekend), so I agree. But I’m not all anit EVE. Just anti no word from CCP on progress over the weekend. Okay, if they came straight out and said: “Sorry guys and girls, we are not able to do anything at the moment, you will have to suffer with a broken chat (either not working or no standings)”, that would be one thing. Radio silence for 3 days? Well, hmm. Okay. I’m willing to wait for a little because, in the end, this is nothing. Even if they continue to be doosh and not give any info on what happened and it is fixed Monday or Tuesday, I will still say the devs suck, but at least it is fixed. Now to make them rock in my mind, fix it, tell us what happened, and let us know how they are putting things in place that will prevent it from happening in the future. Of all of the bad releases of games in recent history, broken promises upon release, and so forth, who are the ones that are praised the most? The ones who are open, honest, and continue to communicate with their community. CCP has this sometimes, right now, they do not.
Sorry but I disagree with you. No excuses can be made for a customer paid product that doesn’t work. No fleet chat , no intel. As for keeping it going for 20 years, so what? You’d think that after 20 years they would understand every line of code and algorithm and if they don’t then they are constantly breaking rule one of software engineering “if you don’t understand it, you don’t change it”
Oh my goodness, thinking that the same developers from 20 years ago are still working with the code? Or even worse, when new developers came into the company, the older developers were able to instruct the new ones on what each line of code does. Sorry, this is not even close to how software development has been practiced. Only in recent years have the field matured enough to make new developers understand more than before, but there is so much more room for improvement. I have found that software developers do not really know everything that they are doing. There is a whole lot of guesswork, and when the technology changes, when new ways of doing things are discovered, that muddles up the waters even more. Plus, they have moved from Python to C++ (among other languages), an engine that has been written in a language that was not intended to be doing what it does. Back 20 years ago, they did some really awesome things to get the game working as it is! The only thing I dislike about the current state is the lack of transparency. The industry is very weird from the outside looking in and just hard to describe from the inside looking out. Oh, to add, “don’t understand it, don’t change it?” If that mindset was in place, eve servers might as well be shut down. I say, don’t understand it, replace it!