Never mind that proverb, then. Good to know. I swear… the day we finally find something that isn’t human-descended or human-made, we won’t know what to do with ourselves.
I wouldn’t say the Rogue Drones are any less genocidal than some of the sovereignties out in Nullsec, and what’s more, they’re far more easily controlled.
The Talocan may have done some phenomenal spatial engineering and left quite a few relics lying around, but I wouldn’t label them as a great civilisation.
Takmahl weren’t pre-Jove race, they were banished Amarr heretics.
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That’s my bad, I’m not fully aware of New Eden’s history on subjects like this.
Takmahl are much later, the problem is that some of their tech might have come from researching Jovian, or other precursor, materials. Yan Jung are very early, but I don’t they lasted long before disappearing.
It might’ve been the Yan Jung, then. I couldn’t find the original statement cite, it’s buried under a couple weeks of posts.
I would measure a civilisation by their achievements and no other ancient civilisation has created anything close in scale and complexity.
It’s the Jovians of the Jove Directorate who helped New Eden, not the Jovians of the Second Jove Empire who largely kept to themselves and covertly observed the nascent empires of New Eden with their Observatories. Just because the former helped us, doesn’t mean the splinter surviving group of the latter deserve special treatment, especially when they are openly hostile against the rest of New Eden.
That is not known. The Triglavians could simply be a contemporary civilization to the Second Jove Empire that interacted with them rather than an actual Jovian splinter group.
Surpassing even the First Jove Empire actually, at least according to the Jovians themselves, as they have relayed to the Society of Conscious Thought.
I’ve said as much on many occasions, and we can’t really know for sure, but I’m inclined to say they are a Jovian splinter, based on some of the connections we’ve made and attitudes they’ve expressed. It’s nothing concrete, just a suspicion.
It seems increasingly likely to me that the Triglavians are contemporaries of both the First and Second Jove Empire. By “ancient enemy” they mean the The Jove, not a specific “iteration.” However, some time before the end of the Second Empire, that iteration succeeded in driving the Triglavians out of our cluster (or failed to prevent their escape).
The fervor seen in recent Triglavian proclamations is not only coincidentally similar to Orthodox Amarr. A common spiritual parent would by necessity be “quite old.” During the original settlement of the Cluster, it would have been natural for the two cultures to settle close to one another – Triglavians in what is now the Eastern Amarr Empire. When the Gate exploded, civilization persisted in the East even while plunging into a dark age in the West.
To their credit, however, the masked angels did try and come to our aid. The fact that we lost the presents does necessitate a spanking of some kind.
If that is true, that could mean that it’s the Triglavians who are most likely the cause of Caroline’s star incident and disappearance of Jove.
To be honest, Jove Directorate as well kept mostly to themselves. And I really have way more respect towards both Directorate and Vigilant Tyrannos, who mostly keep to themselves, instead of Triglavians who clearly are trying to meddle in our business.
I admit the inscrutable gothic standoffishness of the Vigilant (hmmm… are they Vigilant against the return of an ancient menace?) Tyrants is a sexier look than what might characterized as Nation Envy.
But I wonder if they intend to invade the same systems at the same time. That would be kind of sexy.
Just add the Sansha, and of course we Capsuleers since it’s happening on our home turf, and what do you get?
The biggest goddamn mess the cluster has seen since the EVE Gate broke down.
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Yes, if Nation, the Drifters, and the Triglavians all threw themselves at a constellation and some mechanism emerged for capsuleers to fight on behalf of one, or none, that would be quite interesting.
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At that point, even the Four Empires might get a serious run for their money.
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Why in Maker’s sake fight FOR them?.. Who in sane mind would fight as a Drifter? Or for Triglavian against same Drifter? Or as a Sansha?
Just burn them all, this is OUR cluster!
Aren’t you the one who wants to forgive the Drifters their transgressions, since we shot first, and give them the Directorate’s place on CONCORD?
Capsuleers taking their side in open conflict could be a step toward making amends with the Drifters, and furthermore, legitimizing them as a fifth Great Empire.
I still don’t think they are truly sentient in the way we are. The Triglavians seem like people, weird triangle loving people, but people nonetheless.
Assuming you’re referring to the Drifters, you know they aren’t literally just reanimated corpses, right? They have minds, minds that were capable of reanimating those corpses in the first place, and based on all the extensive neurological cross-wiring found in the Drifter autopsies… very strange minds indeed.