Equinox is spurred on by a scientific milestone in cloning technology, ushering in a paradigm shift in how populations can be mobilized and utilized across the vastness of space, empowering the colonial aspirations of nullsec leaders with access to a highly skilled workforce.
(From an Upwell ad)
Offering people work if they consent to being cloned and taking The Fast Way to gods-only-know-where to work in a sweatshop with strangers for a power-hungry nullsec capsuleer warlord?
How convenient that this arrives with a media panic of rising unemployment in the Federation outer worlds. Even more convenient to certain other populations who do not bother asking people if theyâd like to be employed before sending them off to gods-only-know-where to work for power-hungry warlords.
Upwellâs capability of tinkering is almost on the level of the Sebiestor Tribe itself, and the skyhook will certainly be a game changer for a lot of planetary economies, but maybe not all things should be tinkered with.
It is certainly puzzling exactly what supposed scientific milestone that was not achieved many many years ago Upwell is speaking of, or how it might be applied in a way that is actually economically efficient or that does not run afoul of CONCORD regulations.
I suppose we shall see.
I am curious to see exactly what the ethical and legal implications are, since given what is generally suggested by how it is talked about, well. Mostly nothing exactly new, but not something most of the empires seem to like. Of course, I suppose in nullsec, such concerns might be considered âquaint.â
I feel like the lawless outer rim of systems doesnât really have a need for more passive income and power.
However, if theyâre saying âcloningâ, but actually just cloning and then having little âoopsieâ moments at the processing facility of a few hundred worlds in the most populated empire of New Eden effectively sending them to the rimâŚI could get behind that.
In fact, I think I could get behind enormous orbial structures ripping the hearts out of few thousand highsec empire worlds in Amarr territory and leaving the planets to turn barren.
I doubt Upwell will do this though, and instead simply oppress free people by the millions with the excuse of âwell they volunteeredâ and âtheyâre just clonesâ. No doubt harvesting bodies at a scale that would make Sansha jealous from worlds previously oppressed and taking advantage of people that simply hear a new way to leave their poor baseliner lives.
The Equinox announcement video showcases an obscene display of thousands of clones taking stuff out of or putting into boxes, on assembly lines for transport via the new Skyhook. Surely this menial work could be done by robots at a fraction of the cost. Biological clones require massive quantities of foodstuffs, and transportation of same, even if itâs liquid goop out of a pipe and theyâre conditioned to love it (and the work.) Direct energy to power robots seems much more efficient by comparison, to power the ongoing needs of the tasks shown.
Well, legally, CONCORD has always seemed to be strictly opposed to multiple copies of an infomorph existing at once, so if they tried to do so, they might get in the sort of trouble that causes SARO to appear.
And ⌠no, they donât. It does seem like theyâve maybe found a solid solution to crew attrition, though.
One ⌠concern: having perfected a technology like this seems like a top candidate for why the Triglavians are how they are-- if deathâs almost casually reversible, war becomes a sport. We already kind of treat it like one, and maybe thatâs even okay if everybody gets to come along.
If itâs only certain classes or castes that do, though, thatâs kind of likely to run roughshod over everybody else.
No; but an abomination deemed once necessary existing does not imply itâs just fine to spread it. I for one do not intend to live forever, and to offer large-scale disruption of the natural cycles of generations is a matter of another scale, even if not a different matter altogether.
Critiques of cloning sound a little foul coming from our many-times-cloned mouths, though. We have and use this tool; how can we complain when itâs offered to others, less-fortunate?
And among the more obvious natural cycles weâre in breach of, âgetting out of our gravity wells and away from stable biospheresâ seems troublesome in similar ways, but weâve been doing it since literally before recorded history.
Am I really in a position to complain if some dying person is willing to trade an unhappy, brief life to come help keep a station running? ⌠though that life might of course also be unhappy and brief.
It does trouble me a little, though. What is Upwell asking for these new lives itâs offering? And how far does that offer extend?
I guess weâll have to see what the details on this really are.
When we invoke death as part of a ânatural cycle,â that is kinda what weâre saying, yes, Elsebeth.
âItâs natural; itâs the way of things. Everything dies, in its time. To try to resist death is to defy nature. To wish for the impossible will only make you suffer. To try to attain it will only lead to ruin. If itâs your time, itâs your time. Just let go.â
Thatâs the usual line, more or less, stated or not. And Iâm not sure itâs even wrong.
Once again, Aria Jenneth, speak for yourself. There is no âweâ here.
I will leave it as an exercise who is to blame here, if not the people who might take this offer. I am sure a philosopher of your caliber can figure it out.
