A significant update to Industry

remember when a new player could mine all the ore needed to make his own frigate?
CCP answer take the ore away and force isk sink market transactions
remember when people got angry because materials to build with got scares
CCP answer add more material requirements
remember when you could build with some basic skills
CCP answer add more skill requirements to hopefully sell more injectors

remember when builders enjoyed playing EVE and making things for each other
CCP answer make it more complicated to drive away the casual builders

i am so tired of the cash grab “updated” stuff being added to the game. CCP we can see through your attempts not to make gameplay more fun, but to to make gameplay cost more in time and isk

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Then they should be more clear in what they intend, shouldn’t they?

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Perhaps CCP’s goal is to create more niche areas for players to specialize. It is players who choose to attempt vertical manufacturing, multi-boxing, SP to the moon, et alia: to ‘build it all my self’, instead of utilizing the market.

If you need more then one account to play eve, you’re doing it wrong.

Well, they haven’t been in the past 10 years - no point in starting now :sweat_smile:

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@CCP_Dopamine
Why is the Zirnitra much more expensive?
He needs now
Capital Propulsion Engine 10x
Capital Power Generator 5x
Capital Sensor Cluster instead of 6x now 15x
Capital Armor Plates instead of 28x now 30x
Capital Shield Emitter instead of 11x now 15x
Capital Jump Drive instead of 9x now 10x
Capital Computer System instead of 13x now 15x
Capital Siege Array instead of 28x now 45x

Why is it almost everywhere more and nowhere less?

Sincerely, and stay safe

they will do way more with PI if they don’t need to.use 1 to 5 of their planets to feed their t1 indy witch wasn’t required before

You don’t have to go anywhere. You’re free to stay in HiSec. No one is forcing you to do anything.

Why, because you had to buy a few things off the market?

I’ve been mining in LowSec for weeks and haven’t been ganked.

EVE’s a social game. Sounds like solo players are hamstringing themselves.

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Screw you CCP for these changes and screw everyone that has anything to do with this update.

For the last year and half to 2 years CCP and their dev have done nothing but nerfed high sec mining, indy and markets play. Now we can not make battleships 100% in high sec with high sec gathered items!

I am so glad that I quit spending money on this garbage and only monitor it to see how CCP/dev screw high sec!

I like how Alphas are limited to battleships and they can not be build with high sec only components but CCP/devs know that 60-75% of players never leave high sec. Nothing like screwing over the better part of your players/customers!

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I remember.

I gave friends 2 options. My fair price or hell swing by in my indy char’s range with your ore/t2 mats to a station, contract/trade to me and its cost of install fees. Pick up at station or if really in good mood if on my routes I can take it on the road.

Why I bailed after the indy redo like 6/7? years ago. So many BPO"s I said wth I had copies to work from. Lets throw it in for one more research. When most accepted calcs said its a waste. I said I know but wth.

than than massive change way back all went to ME 10. A big piece of my indy spirit died that day…

shame I plexed most of my final year with not much money making. coming back now I don’t have the isk flow to just splurge in jita and sit on the price surge.

Was nice for t2 when they did moon shifts. Which they are doing again I see for mon shitts now in T1. Sigh. Last time was massive profit in the safest way possible. 10’s of t2 ship literally never left jita. Bought and sold there. Not even 1 minute in a charon. So nice…

It’s because they know if they were honest about their intentions it would do nothing but drive players away, hence the corporate double-speak and them occasionally trying to convince us that by making things worse now, they will be better at some point in the future.

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That’s true, if you look at the recent changes, they all had a strong monetization focus. The new fleet features for FCs were not put behind a high SP wall by accident. Same again here with capital component production, now requiring skills nobody needed before. Let’s see how they monetize the upcoming cloak nerf …

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About “redistribution of ressources”, why not make some of those ressources “spawn” only during some Storm going around New Eden ?

Nonsense.

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Nice, good to see things being shaken up again. Will be interesting exploring all these changes.

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Not at all, unless you want a dozen alts spread across the entire cluster and logging 10+ hours a day to be your own mini economy.

Drake was 30 mil, now its 90mil, BS are 50% more expensive, with this they are going to be even more expensive, so…

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That is silly too. Needing alts is a fail. I reject your false choices.

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Game is still fine to play with only 1 char

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Okay well I reject your trolling. Unless you’re doing literally everything yourself - all your resource harvesting, all your own PI (at your own POCOs, that you built yourself, after harvesting the materials yourself), all your research/invention/building, all your own hauling… then EVE is a social game because you must, by necessity, engage with other players - even if it’s through the market window. There’s no way out of it.

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Nice attempt at a straw-man, and you’re moving the goal posts. So clearly you don’t have a good argument, or else you’d not need to stoop to such tactics.

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