A significant update to Industry

rly it is the conspiracy card now? Do u think ccp would do something to hurt their game and their player base ? so all those ccp developers on those interviews are lying because their mission is to go on unemployment .Like the csm members are supporting the new industry changes because it will make the cartel stronger throw the affiliation of hard knox lazerhak and pl ? .omg u people…Have faith in ccp .and enjoy the new game play .New players are coming in ,and cpu is up stop making comments without any data.

cherry picking? okey. A rattlesnake. Before Patch i was selling these ships from 800m around at secondary markets…
now built from base… All reactions will do by builder. Atm shopping list cost is 1.7 billion isk. plus Blueprint…
so plz continue defend CCP…

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THAT is exactly cherry picking : saying a specific example is generality.

So yes, you are cherry picking : saying that the price at the present moment, when prices are changing a lot, is meaningful
Truth is : it’s not.

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I dont understand where is cherry picking? i have BPs i have reaction formulas. i will build from 0.
My all prices are Jita actual prices. So CCP add to many exotic ingredients to blueprints. What you wait?
ofc prices will increase. but CCP add too much of them. If you try to build them you can understand. But you want ignore truth. At market prices are always came from supply and demand balance. CCP destroy balance. And it will never go back. Also Many producers like me stoped production. Also stop sales to we wait final prices. But even blind person see prices will really much expensive than older prices.

Whats problem? CCP behave us like morons. They saying we want add more fun to Indy players. Truth is diffirent. They dont even care Indy players. They only care player have to sell plex for buy faction ships.
They nerfing player incomes. but not buff risk versus gain elements. So all production will be slower. less market activity. less pvp. less play…

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Because you claim that TODAY prices are the general prices.
Because you don’t want to wait to see the real effect on prices.

According to what ? You ? Nobody cares.
You have to provide a good explanation of what is “too many”.

Not necessarily. Actually they will decrease.

Balance destroys itself every time . Every day there is a good thing to sell on the market. Now it’s up to you to take that offer and make money, or cry like a mongoid on the forum. Seems like you made your choice …

They are not. Well they did it before, a lot, but not now.

https://ravworks.com/tree_view/11567/0

This new industry is amazing. So much better, easier, better comprehensible and more straightforward. :rofl:

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An Omen goes from

to this for an Omen Navy Issue even though they are both T1 ships:

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This is the visualization people need to see. Further realize there is time at every step of this. This is a bullshìt change.

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Not to mention that the Omen built years ago still have the same survivability and performance as one those new exciting ones they built TODAY right now. Maybe CCP should just melt everyone’s assets for “realism”. WTH? no maintenance cost??

Zip, Nil, Nada~~

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I lurk there. Its not this magical place where CCP devs are looked on favorably in most threads. They’d have to show this I like CCP blah and this idea thread.

Only change in recent times actually liked there was the option to turn off the annoying to some red dot on new items. I’ll give them that one. Reddit actually liked that change.

This indy change…if they saw a ilike it thread it was either a trolling run they missed…or one of the top 1% eve financially who bought up a few hundred BS and liking the easy flipping.

If I was in that spot too…yeah I’d like this. Log in, if really lazy and say cool lots of profit here and sell 100 ships to reasonable buy orders. If wanting the extra isk put out sell orders. Isk for ships you spent 2 minutes buying then 2 minutes selling? What’s not to like. Don’t even have to haul the damn things.

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No, they are not.
Faction ships are not T1, they are faction. And now their build complexity actually reflects the power faction adds, given faction is ABOVE T2.
Changes to cost are a different matter of course, and may/may not be desirable

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I mean, tbh, it wasnt hard to buy up lots of stuff when it was dirt cheap in the last couple years, sell bits of it and have enough to live on very comfortably until the market gets bloated again and it cycles.

But eh, maybe luck exists after all.

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I dumped all my bulk stuff way back when at fair market value, so I don’t feel bad. With the prospect of not having a stable home, I didn’t want to take a chance on CCP’s idea of the future…

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Faction, navy and pirate, are actually considered t1.5. Just an fyi.

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What I have been doing. Getting my chars down to “their” ships. And their mods. Ship X doesn’t have 20 shield mods anymore. It has 4. 1 each resistance. Slowly getting to that point.

The hauler has her crane. End list.

The soon to be Kronos slave will have kronos, a navy comet in the BS hanger and an endurance. End list.

The minmatar lp earner/explorer a wolf and loki and will train into prowler. End list

On down the line.

Part of it this (some overstock has made me some nice isk, only makes me wish I had more isk prior to ride this bubble better).

Part of it who knows what system(s) get trigged next.

Lots of overstock going to jita. Sell or hold for better pricing. JIta gets trig’d…we can call this game pretty much done and they are scorched earthing the place.

Basically going back to prior 0.0 days. after a few evacs I realized the more you have…the more you got to evac. In time I settled on a few ships/mods and just buy crap as needed in new homes.

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I both got out and then lucked out as to where the rest of my stuff was. I’m still hedging my future in the game but I have to admit, I think I need to a hit of 4way windowpane again to try to figure out what CCP has in store for the future.

They all are T1.
T2 is just what is build from T1 with morphite.
Note that polarized guns… I think they are T2.

Polarized are t2, and you’re right faction/pirate are actually classified as t1. There is an old chart somewhere that shows the different tech levels and faction/pirate are marked t1.5 to designate that they fall between pure t1 and t2.

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Even assuming the new parts’ price is inflated by 10x, the build cost will be above the current price. But honestly 500M for a Battleship sounds reasonable.

Thank you for your kind words.

Now, as for the future. How about you and me working together ? You scan the cargo for any materials we need, and I shoot them. You grab the loot and we start building again. I’m all for fantasy :rofl: